A Method of De-Bubbling Goo! - Oozing Goo - The Lava Lamp Syndicate2024-03-29T06:33:49Zhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-method-of-de-bubbling-goo?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A857913&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIm not positive the SURFACTAN…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-03-05:1566398:Comment:8579142022-03-05T21:13:57.529ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
<p>Im not positive the SURFACTANT has anything to do with the bubbles</p>
<p>They are NOT air bubbles but bubbles of master fluid<br/>Message me if you need SLES</p>
<p>Im not positive the SURFACTANT has anything to do with the bubbles</p>
<p>They are NOT air bubbles but bubbles of master fluid<br/>Message me if you need SLES</p> Agreed. That’s proven the sam…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-03-05:1566398:Comment:8579132022-03-05T20:43:05.224ZJsmoothhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JordanReeder
<p>Agreed. That’s proven the same for me as well. Do you still suppose that the surfactant plays a part in the bubbly goo? I first used SLS based shampoo- serious bubbles everywhere. Then I used a SLS based hand soap with very few other ingredients- same thing. I am now looking in to ordering SLES in the purist form and using only enough to coat the inside of the globe. What do you think?<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Claude J said:…</cite></p>
<p>Agreed. That’s proven the same for me as well. Do you still suppose that the surfactant plays a part in the bubbly goo? I first used SLS based shampoo- serious bubbles everywhere. Then I used a SLS based hand soap with very few other ingredients- same thing. I am now looking in to ordering SLES in the purist form and using only enough to coat the inside of the globe. What do you think?<br/> <br/> <cite>Claude J said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-method-of-de-bubbling-goo?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A857738&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment857738"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The master fluid bubble will still come back without the addition of something <br/><br/>I've tried removing fluid and <br/>Heating the wax to 180 to decrease density<br/>Mixing the wax while hot<br/>Vacuum pumping out bubbles<br/>None of this worked</p>
<p>I've come to the conclusion that Its caused by the deterioration of chemicals in the wax over time <br/><br/>Even see those small brown chunks in the wax? <br/>That's the steric acid that went bad from use over time</p>
<p>You get the same if you overdo the steric wax when blending a new batch<br/>I'm willing to bet that the Steric Acid has the same effect as vinegar</p>
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<blockquote cite="https://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-method-of-de-bubbling-goo?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A857686&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment857686"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I have now found that adding too much vinegar will utterly destroy the goo… maybe it’s best to simply separate the goo from the master fluid, heat the goo alone, let it sit until the extra water within separates… more experiments to do! </p>
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</blockquote> The master fluid bubble will…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-03-05:1566398:Comment:8577382022-03-05T19:10:48.426ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
<p>The master fluid bubble will still come back without the addition of something <br></br><br></br>I've tried removing fluid and <br></br>Heating the wax to 180 to decrease density<br></br>Mixing the wax while hot<br></br>Vacuum pumping out bubbles<br></br>None of this worked</p>
<p>I've come to the conclusion that Its caused by the deterioration of chemicals in the wax over time <br></br><br></br>Even see those small brown chunks in the wax? <br></br>That's the steric acid that went bad from use over time</p>
<p>You get the…</p>
<p>The master fluid bubble will still come back without the addition of something <br/><br/>I've tried removing fluid and <br/>Heating the wax to 180 to decrease density<br/>Mixing the wax while hot<br/>Vacuum pumping out bubbles<br/>None of this worked</p>
<p>I've come to the conclusion that Its caused by the deterioration of chemicals in the wax over time <br/><br/>Even see those small brown chunks in the wax? <br/>That's the steric acid that went bad from use over time</p>
<p>You get the same if you overdo the steric wax when blending a new batch<br/>I'm willing to bet that the Steric Acid has the same effect as vinegar</p>
<p><br/><br/> <br/> <cite>Jsmooth said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-method-of-de-bubbling-goo?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A857686&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment857686"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I have now found that adding too much vinegar will utterly destroy the goo… maybe it’s best to simply separate the goo from the master fluid, heat the goo alone, let it sit until the extra water within separates… more experiments to do! </p>
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</blockquote> I have now found that adding…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-03-05:1566398:Comment:8576862022-03-05T17:57:00.838ZJsmoothhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JordanReeder
<p>I have now found that adding too much vinegar will utterly destroy the goo… maybe it’s best to simply separate the goo from the master fluid, heat the goo alone, let it sit until the extra water within separates… more experiments to do! </p>
<p>I have now found that adding too much vinegar will utterly destroy the goo… maybe it’s best to simply separate the goo from the master fluid, heat the goo alone, let it sit until the extra water within separates… more experiments to do! </p> I have to edit this a bit- it…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-02-28:1566398:Comment:8575622022-02-28T17:24:18.556ZJsmoothhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JordanReeder
<p>I have to edit this a bit- it seems that if approximately two tablespoons of white vinegar is added to the master fluid, THIS will significantly reduce bubbles in goo. I’ve experimented with a couple of my other lamps and adding the vinegar to the master fluid while the lamp is cool seems to really do the trick. In retrospect I really should have taken before and after pictures… I wasn’t sure if this method would work at all so I didn’t bother. I’ll whip up a batch of goo and try to make it…</p>
<p>I have to edit this a bit- it seems that if approximately two tablespoons of white vinegar is added to the master fluid, THIS will significantly reduce bubbles in goo. I’ve experimented with a couple of my other lamps and adding the vinegar to the master fluid while the lamp is cool seems to really do the trick. In retrospect I really should have taken before and after pictures… I wasn’t sure if this method would work at all so I didn’t bother. I’ll whip up a batch of goo and try to make it all bubbly, take a picture for you guys and then add vinegar and take an after picture. </p> I used white vinegar. It held…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-02-26:1566398:Comment:8575512022-02-26T16:28:13.440ZJsmoothhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JordanReeder
<p>I used white vinegar. It held up well but the bubbles in the goo came back…and then I figured out why I had so many bubbles… I used a clear shampoo as a surfactant… the main ingredient was SLS but since it was a SHAMPOO it caused a lot of bubbling inside the goo. (DUH) I have since replaced the master fluid and used a more straight forward SLS with the same goo and new master fluid and nowwwwww I have no bubbles at all. It all had to do with the surfactant. Lesson learned! To get back to…</p>
<p>I used white vinegar. It held up well but the bubbles in the goo came back…and then I figured out why I had so many bubbles… I used a clear shampoo as a surfactant… the main ingredient was SLS but since it was a SHAMPOO it caused a lot of bubbling inside the goo. (DUH) I have since replaced the master fluid and used a more straight forward SLS with the same goo and new master fluid and nowwwwww I have no bubbles at all. It all had to do with the surfactant. Lesson learned! To get back to using just a touch of vinegar for normal bubble problems, I’d still say it helps.<br/> <br/> <cite>Ant Bee said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/a-method-of-de-bubbling-goo?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A857548&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment857548"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Ok, I'm intrigued. <br/><br/>* What kind of vinegar? White vinegar? Apple cider vinegar?<br/>* How has it held up over a few runs?<br/>* Have you noticed any cloudiness in the fluid or other effects?</p>
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</blockquote> Ok, I'm intrigued. * What ki…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-02-26:1566398:Comment:8575482022-02-26T13:34:38.421ZAnt Beehttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/AntBee
<p>Ok, I'm intrigued. <br/><br/>* What kind of vinegar? White vinegar? Apple cider vinegar?<br/>* How has it held up over a few runs?<br/>* Have you noticed any cloudiness in the fluid or other effects?</p>
<p>Ok, I'm intrigued. <br/><br/>* What kind of vinegar? White vinegar? Apple cider vinegar?<br/>* How has it held up over a few runs?<br/>* Have you noticed any cloudiness in the fluid or other effects?</p> it might be why steric acid w…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-02-18:1566398:Comment:8568722022-02-18T08:42:09.795ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
<p>it might be why steric acid was in the original formula?</p>
<p>it might be why steric acid was in the original formula?</p> very interesting. I wonder ho…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-02-12:1566398:Comment:8566542022-02-12T10:45:27.250ZArnehttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/kalel
<p>very interesting. I wonder how theese bubbles develop anyway because as you say its all smooth when spiking. I think some problems can be solved by simply letting the lamp sit. I've had more than one globe with sticky issues so I didnt use them for maybe half a year or longer amd when I tried again they just worked without any stickieness...also cloudy globes seem to clear up a lot when sitting next to a heat source like a radiator or so for a couple of weeks/months.</p>
<p>very interesting. I wonder how theese bubbles develop anyway because as you say its all smooth when spiking. I think some problems can be solved by simply letting the lamp sit. I've had more than one globe with sticky issues so I didnt use them for maybe half a year or longer amd when I tried again they just worked without any stickieness...also cloudy globes seem to clear up a lot when sitting next to a heat source like a radiator or so for a couple of weeks/months.</p> That's good to know may try o…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-02-12:1566398:Comment:8566512022-02-12T01:44:32.176ZGalaxy_9https://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Matt83
<p>That's good to know may try out, thanks for sharing!</p>
<p>Something else to consider that what may be doing it is the acid in the vinegar. White Vinegar is 5% acetic acid, and Cleaning Vinegar is 6%, (which is about 20% more acidic by volume), only thing negative I can think of is it affect the coil in time. So for 2 tablespoons of vinegar added that may be a drop or two of acetic acid by volume of whole lamp.</p>
<p>That's good to know may try out, thanks for sharing!</p>
<p>Something else to consider that what may be doing it is the acid in the vinegar. White Vinegar is 5% acetic acid, and Cleaning Vinegar is 6%, (which is about 20% more acidic by volume), only thing negative I can think of is it affect the coil in time. So for 2 tablespoons of vinegar added that may be a drop or two of acetic acid by volume of whole lamp.</p>