Ask me about Lava Lite. Top 5 unanswered questions go to Lava Lite for answers - Oozing Goo - The Lava Lamp Syndicate2024-03-28T16:11:44Zhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/ask-me-about-lava-lite-top-5-unanswered-questions-go-to-lava-lite?xg_source=msg_com_forum&id=1566398%3ATopic%3A392211&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThis seems to be a little off…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2013-04-20:1566398:Comment:4547412013-04-20T06:01:04.562ZIanhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/IanRamsey
<p>This seems to be a little off the topic from recent replies, but I was thinking, the older lamps seemed to have an extremely different wax. I remember when I first got my Starship, the wax took about 6 to 8 runs to break in. I remember the first time, it would send up bubbles quite frequently and that would keep it going, but that slowly went away to where the wax would just undulate up and down, not really ever breaking apart. It was almost like it wasnt getting hot enough, but that was not…</p>
<p>This seems to be a little off the topic from recent replies, but I was thinking, the older lamps seemed to have an extremely different wax. I remember when I first got my Starship, the wax took about 6 to 8 runs to break in. I remember the first time, it would send up bubbles quite frequently and that would keep it going, but that slowly went away to where the wax would just undulate up and down, not really ever breaking apart. It was almost like it wasnt getting hot enough, but that was not the case. I think it just had really lazy wax. But the wax started out as being normal, flowing and breaking apart alot.The new lamps simply do not do this. They seem to start out quite calm, yet the wax is clear ish, and they slowly seem to get more solid colored and more crazy, like they are over heated when they arent. Its like the opposite of what they used to do.</p>
<p>I sure hope this makes sense, Im not sure if it does or not haha but this is just my thoughts on that they have either changed the formula, or they are not preparing them like they used to. And then there is the cloudiness issue, which they seem to have taken some control over, but this has already been discussed a lot.</p>
<p>On a further note, I sadly sold my starship at a yard sale because I felt that it did not flow right, because it would hardly ever break up, and seemed to not get hot enough. I am kicking myself today for selling it. It had pink liquid and white wax, and the base was silver. My sis had given it to me as a bday present, it was my very first lava lamp. It was one of the "mix and match" lamps from Spencers, when you could pick out the globe and base seperately, because I remember the globe was in a completely seperate box from the base and they said custom on them or something like that, to my knowledge. Anywho, I know I would pay top dollar for a USA made lava lamp, if it had great colors, flow, and was crystal clear. Basically, if they start selling lamps comparable to the 90s.</p> Yes - it would be nice if LL…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2012-08-13:1566398:Comment:4083442012-08-13T21:30:00.892ZJimhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/AnonymousLavaFreak
<p>Yes - it would be nice if LL brought back an affordable wave.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>phreaktor said:</cite></p>
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<p>Yes - it would be nice if LL brought back an affordable wave.<br/> <br/> <cite>phreaktor said:</cite></p>
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</blockquote> I agree wholeheartedly, Jonas…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2012-08-09:1566398:Comment:4076032012-08-09T16:48:59.506ZHughesWaveMotionMachinesLLChttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/phreaktor
<p>I agree wholeheartedly, Jonas.. Even if they did bring them back, I would remain in the high end custom handcrafted niche sector...</p>
<p>I agree wholeheartedly, Jonas.. Even if they did bring them back, I would remain in the high end custom handcrafted niche sector...</p> Here's hoping you do bring ba…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2012-08-09:1566398:Comment:4074482012-08-09T16:09:07.054ZJonas Clark-Elliotthttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JonasClarkElliott
<p>Here's hoping you do bring back these lovely decor items. Spencer Gifts is full of liquid- and light-based novelty devices, but no Waves...?? There absolutely need to be such devices, and I think they could become popular again.</p>
<p>Here's hoping you do bring back these lovely decor items. Spencer Gifts is full of liquid- and light-based novelty devices, but no Waves...?? There absolutely need to be such devices, and I think they could become popular again.</p> The item in the auction, the…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2012-07-16:1566398:Comment:4022892012-07-16T19:49:42.539ZHughesWaveMotionMachinesLLChttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/phreaktor
<p>The item in the auction, the Discovery Store Tranquil Tide Machine, was available at that price because it was being mass produced at that time. Currently, the only "wave machine" in production is made in China and is just a toy/novelty item. You can buy 1000 of them for $3000 and they are incredibly low quality with nearly nonexistent true wave action. There are several chemicals in the Lava formula which I have almost cracked with the help of a chemical engineer. </p>
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<p>The item in the auction, the Discovery Store Tranquil Tide Machine, was available at that price because it was being mass produced at that time. Currently, the only "wave machine" in production is made in China and is just a toy/novelty item. You can buy 1000 of them for $3000 and they are incredibly low quality with nearly nonexistent true wave action. There are several chemicals in the Lava formula which I have almost cracked with the help of a chemical engineer. </p>
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<p>One of the first formula chemicals has a $27.00 Hazard surcharge for each bottle, and they are only sold in 1 liter containers. The old Lava vessels were made from custom extruded rectangular acrylic. No one produces this shape of material en masse. Cell cast sheet is extremely labor intensive so that is out the door. As for the round tube later models, the 16" models had injection molded end caps for the blank side and the air trap side. Developing this type of mold costs thousands of dollars depending upon the complexity. The bases were molded as well. There is another fairly costly chemical that is used to treat the inside of the vessel. </p>
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<p>I'm not saying it's impossible to make it cost effective, but just because waves fetch a huge price tag does not mean the demand is large enough to warrant full scale production at today's costs. One of the original chemicals is even outlawed for its original purpose now, but can be had to the tune of $137.00 per gallon. </p>
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<p>They seem to be so popular now not because so many people want them, but because there are so few respectable units on the market. Supply versus demand is dictating value. I only know this because I have been grooming the market for three years now. Pretty much every Google result is my marketing. Personally, it's a great thing for me that they are not releasing them again. I am working on an 18" model as well.</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Dr. WHAT?! said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/ask-me-about-lava-lite-top-5-unanswered-questions-go-to-lava-lite?xg_source=activity&id=1566398%3ATopic%3A392211&page=8#1566398Comment402183"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Phreaktor Im not talking about ones that are HUGE like your custom ones or an Atlantis that would cost big cash, I'm talking regular normal sized waves. Can you explain how come, about 5 years ago, you were able to walk into any mall and buy these cheap china waves for $19.99 at any Discovery Channel stores? And I'm talking about these <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-1990s-Lava-Lamp-Rave-Wave-Machine-/140800566106?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c85e235a" target="_blank">CHEAP CHINA WAVE</a> the listing is wrong btw these were not made in the 90's. And look the price this is fetching! how is there not a demand for these and how come they can't be produced at reasonable prices? Shit I think a wave machine would be about the only thing a china factory can't screw up on lol.</p>
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</blockquote> Your right - yes the giant wa…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2012-07-16:1566398:Comment:4024342012-07-16T17:55:18.459ZTim Gillhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/TimGill
<p>Your right - yes the giant waves will be costly (similar to the situation with the collouses). I am sure that there are factories in china that can make them really easily and cheaply in fact it wouldn't surprise me if they were being produced now!!</p>
<p>Your right - yes the giant waves will be costly (similar to the situation with the collouses). I am sure that there are factories in china that can make them really easily and cheaply in fact it wouldn't surprise me if they were being produced now!!</p> Phreaktor Im not talking abou…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2012-07-16:1566398:Comment:4021832012-07-16T13:54:27.537ZDr. WHAT?!https://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/DrWHAT334
<p>Phreaktor Im not talking about ones that are HUGE like your custom ones or an Atlantis that would cost big cash, I'm talking regular normal sized waves. Can you explain how come, about 5 years ago, you were able to walk into any mall and buy these cheap china waves for $19.99 at any Discovery Channel stores? And I'm talking about these…</p>
<p>Phreaktor Im not talking about ones that are HUGE like your custom ones or an Atlantis that would cost big cash, I'm talking regular normal sized waves. Can you explain how come, about 5 years ago, you were able to walk into any mall and buy these cheap china waves for $19.99 at any Discovery Channel stores? And I'm talking about these <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-1990s-Lava-Lamp-Rave-Wave-Machine-/140800566106?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c85e235a" target="_blank">CHEAP CHINA WAVE</a> the listing is wrong btw these were not made in the 90's. And look the price this is fetching! how is there not a demand for these and how come they can't be produced at reasonable prices? Shit I think a wave machine would be about the only thing a china factory can't screw up on lol.</p>
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<p></p> The problem with the waves is…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2012-07-16:1566398:Comment:4022782012-07-16T11:24:48.261ZHughesWaveMotionMachinesLLChttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/phreaktor
<p>The problem with the waves is the cost. The vessel itself for a Giant Pacifica costs well over that to fabricate. In fact it is the most expensive part of the vessel. The oil used costs over $40 a gallon now and some of the chemicals used in them have a huge shipping surcharge attached to them. Then there is the cost of having injection molds made, patents, unit shipping costs, ect. The amount of interest is not worth the cost to them as it is more of a niche product than the lamps. …</p>
<p>The problem with the waves is the cost. The vessel itself for a Giant Pacifica costs well over that to fabricate. In fact it is the most expensive part of the vessel. The oil used costs over $40 a gallon now and some of the chemicals used in them have a huge shipping surcharge attached to them. Then there is the cost of having injection molds made, patents, unit shipping costs, ect. The amount of interest is not worth the cost to them as it is more of a niche product than the lamps. Material and labor costs are not what they were in the 90s and neither is the demand.<br/> <br/> <cite>Dr. WHAT?! said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/ask-me-about-lava-lite-top-5-unanswered-questions-go-to-lava-lite#1566398Comment392076"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p style="text-align: left;">Jimbo the starship wasn't launched due to it not passing with underwriter laboratory's tests. Nothing about its stability, they a have strict rules here in the US, another reason why we dont see the grande plasma here in the US and only in the UK. They dont have nearly as many guidelines/rules when it comes to electrical devices as the US does. But I would love to see this fixed and actually released to the public, so ask him Autumn.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Also about grandes, find out why they haven't done anything different with those? the same color combos for the past 10 years is so boring. We need new color combos, different colored bases (starship is a good example of a different base) for these liek the days of the giants.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Also push the wave machine more on him, I dont think he realizes what bringing back the wave would do for LL as a company, it could be their saving grace. He's concern about the cost? lol I'm pretty sure people would pay $50-$100 for these.</p>
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</blockquote> Yes, they are. The package la…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2012-07-01:1566398:Comment:3997922012-07-01T14:27:09.091ZErinhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/erin9
<p>Yes, they are. The package label says so.<br/> <br/> <cite>Steven said:</cite></p>
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<p>Yes, they are. The package label says so.<br/> <br/> <cite>Steven said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/ask-me-about-lava-lite-top-5-unanswered-questions-go-to-lava-lite?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A400314&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment399212"><div>Are the clearview lamps exclusive to Target?</div>
</blockquote> Ship to Hong Kong. That is al…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2012-07-01:1566398:Comment:4003142012-07-01T14:26:01.980ZAnson Cheunghttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/gbdjlava
<p>Ship to Hong Kong. That is all.</p>
<p>Ship to Hong Kong. That is all.</p>