Cant get your consort to flow after a refill? This is why. - Oozing Goo - The Lava Lamp Syndicate2024-03-29T00:23:51Zhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/cant-get-your-consort-to-flow?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A435999&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThat is very interesting. Tha…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2013-02-04:1566398:Comment:4359992013-02-04T13:48:55.537ZAutumnhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Autumn
<p>That is very interesting. Thanks for posting that. Too bad it does not say what to do if you add too much water. It is neat how back then tampering with a lamp is encouraged and now there are multiple warnings that say not to open your lamps.</p>
<p>That is very interesting. Thanks for posting that. Too bad it does not say what to do if you add too much water. It is neat how back then tampering with a lamp is encouraged and now there are multiple warnings that say not to open your lamps.</p> Autumn,
I "won" a red/clear…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2013-02-04:1566398:Comment:4359262013-02-04T02:53:52.759ZKirkhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/KirkOlson
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<p>I "won" a red/clear Consort with box on eBay last week. It had a rough trip through the mail. Some of the liquid leaked out - about a 1/2". I made a newbie mistake - didn't fully read the Consort information on Lava Library - and topped off the Consort with Midnight Century liquid.</p>
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<p>After adding the Century liquid, my Consort stopped flowing. After reading your post (MANY THANKS), I tested the density of the liquid with my hydrometer (good for more…</p>
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<p>I "won" a red/clear Consort with box on eBay last week. It had a rough trip through the mail. Some of the liquid leaked out - about a 1/2". I made a newbie mistake - didn't fully read the Consort information on Lava Library - and topped off the Consort with Midnight Century liquid.</p>
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<p>After adding the Century liquid, my Consort stopped flowing. After reading your post (MANY THANKS), I tested the density of the liquid with my hydrometer (good for more than just making wine, I see). It measured ~1.075!! I was surprised, since your research showed that Consort liquid was around 1.00. I decided to test my hydrometer -- yup, water tested correctly at 1.00, so the density of my Consort's liquid was accurate. 1.075 -- hmmm. </p>
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<p>Why did my Consort flow at such a high density? I'm not sure, but I think the liquid and maybe the wax must have been modified. Strong smell, but it also looked like it had a LOT of surf in it.</p>
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<p>I started adding distilled water and stopped testing for flow at 1.014. The wax just sat on the bottom and flowed downward within itself.</p>
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<p>I finally decided to refill with red/clear Midnight Century. I measured the Century liquid density at 1.042. After the refill, I'm now running the Consort with a 25 watt bulb <strong>without</strong> the reflector. I like it so much better now! Honestly, my original, flowing Consort was unattractive -- worn out wax and slightly cloudy liquid.</p>
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<p>Here are the results of the refill.</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3127024022?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3127024022?profile=original" width="240" class="align-full"/></a></p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3036818399?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3036818399?profile=original" width="240" class="align-full"/></a></p>
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<p>My takeaway from this experience is the Consorts are temperamental (putting it mildly), so don't expect to find an original, *attractive* working example of this vintage lamp. Buy the cloudy ones with quality bases and caps and refill them.</p>
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<p>Finally, the box that came with my Consort had the following "Special Instructions" sheet that I think supports your research on the Consort liquid's density. Check this out:</p>
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<p>Interesting, huh? Thanks again for taking the time to share your experience with this lamp. You saved me a bunch of time and frustration.</p> Good point Autumn - Mathmos /…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2012-03-23:1566398:Comment:3822732012-03-23T18:08:09.149ZTim Gillhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/TimGill
<p>Good point Autumn - Mathmos / Cretsworth and Hagerty were closely linked as Hagerty brought the patents of the formula off Craven Wlaker (Cretsworth).<br/><br/>Allthough the designs and there marketing etc are and were completely different the formula was very similar. While time went on both mathmos and Lava world changed there formula (I am talking about when they were still USA made).</p>
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<p>Good point Autumn - Mathmos / Cretsworth and Hagerty were closely linked as Hagerty brought the patents of the formula off Craven Wlaker (Cretsworth).<br/><br/>Allthough the designs and there marketing etc are and were completely different the formula was very similar. While time went on both mathmos and Lava world changed there formula (I am talking about when they were still USA made).</p>
<p><i><br/></i></p> Having opened many consorts a…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2012-03-23:1566398:Comment:3824982012-03-23T16:42:33.780ZAutumnhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Autumn
Having opened many consorts and a couple jets I noticed they smell and look very similar. I am starting to think the really old lava lite lamps used the same formula as mathmos. Another thing that sould suggest this is why a consort runs on 15 watts, but if you use a more current formula it does not work out all that well. With mathmos opening their usa store soon, I may refill one of my already refilled consorts with the mathmos formula.
Having opened many consorts and a couple jets I noticed they smell and look very similar. I am starting to think the really old lava lite lamps used the same formula as mathmos. Another thing that sould suggest this is why a consort runs on 15 watts, but if you use a more current formula it does not work out all that well. With mathmos opening their usa store soon, I may refill one of my already refilled consorts with the mathmos formula. Has anyone gookitted a Consor…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2012-03-23:1566398:Comment:3824192012-03-23T16:03:29.768ZJonas Clark-Elliotthttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JonasClarkElliott
<p>Has anyone gookitted a Consort? How well does it work? Back in the 90s I refilled two using the contents from new Lava Lite globes. They flowed, but weren't very showy.</p>
<p>Has anyone gookitted a Consort? How well does it work? Back in the 90s I refilled two using the contents from new Lava Lite globes. They flowed, but weren't very showy.</p> Gookit :)
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Impress…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2011-05-20:1566398:Comment:2401212011-05-20T05:07:22.897ZEngineerSkinnyhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/RyTouch
Gookit :)<br/>
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<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/cant-get-your-consort-to-flow#1566398Comment224039"><div>Impressive. I wish I could have fixed mine. So what is your recommendation to someone who wants to refill theirs entirely and has NONE of the original contents?</div>
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Gookit :)<br/>
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<cite>Erin said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/cant-get-your-consort-to-flow#1566398Comment224039"><div>Impressive. I wish I could have fixed mine. So what is your recommendation to someone who wants to refill theirs entirely and has NONE of the original contents?</div>
</blockquote> So what is your recommendatio…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2011-05-03:1566398:Comment:2311532011-05-03T22:14:59.462ZTim Gillhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/TimGill
<blockquote>So what is your recommendation to someone who wants to refill theirs entirely and has NONE of the original contents?</blockquote>
i would say do a compleat lamp redo if it is a empty bottel or if you only have the wax then mix up a perc, water, salt and glycol mix etc<br/>
<blockquote>So what is your recommendation to someone who wants to refill theirs entirely and has NONE of the original contents?</blockquote>
i would say do a compleat lamp redo if it is a empty bottel or if you only have the wax then mix up a perc, water, salt and glycol mix etc<br/> I tried that. The wax flowed…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2011-04-23:1566398:Comment:2251962011-04-23T04:01:40.993ZAutumnhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Autumn
I tried that. The wax flowed for a little bit but then it froze mid blob and never moved after that. It was like I was looking at a photo of the lamp. I could see the wax flowing within the formation, but the formation never moved.<br/>
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<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/cant-get-your-consort-to-flow#1566398Comment224821"><div>No, only distilled water.</div>
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I tried that. The wax flowed for a little bit but then it froze mid blob and never moved after that. It was like I was looking at a photo of the lamp. I could see the wax flowing within the formation, but the formation never moved.<br/>
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<cite>Kempton said:</cite><br/>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/cant-get-your-consort-to-flow#1566398Comment224821"><div>No, only distilled water.</div>
</blockquote> No, only distilled water.tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2011-04-22:1566398:Comment:2248212011-04-22T22:54:15.191ZKemptonhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Kempton
No, only distilled water.
No, only distilled water. Actually thats exactly how yo…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2011-04-22:1566398:Comment:2248962011-04-22T21:13:41.190ZAutumnhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Autumn
Actually thats exactly how you dilute the lava lamp liquid to the right density. I dont know how I forgot to put that in the original post... I will have to edit it in.<br/>
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<cite>Kempton said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/cant-get-your-consort-to-flow?xg_source=activity#1566398Comment224622"><div>could you use distilled water? (just out of curiosity)</div>
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Actually thats exactly how you dilute the lava lamp liquid to the right density. I dont know how I forgot to put that in the original post... I will have to edit it in.<br/>
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<cite>Kempton said:</cite><br />
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/cant-get-your-consort-to-flow?xg_source=activity#1566398Comment224622"><div>could you use distilled water? (just out of curiosity)</div>
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