I can't believe the state of Lava Lite - Oozing Goo - The Lava Lamp Syndicate2024-03-29T13:55:05Zhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/i-can-t-believe-the-state-of-lava-lite?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A567974&feed=yes&xn_auth=noNow you just know I had to do…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2015-02-15:1566398:Comment:5712702015-02-15T03:45:07.863ZCarolhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/CarolMorrow
<p>Now you just know I had to do that Keith~~~~heeheeheee</p>
<p>Now you just know I had to do that Keith~~~~heeheeheee</p> Hey Carol, shut up. lol Car…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2015-02-15:1566398:Comment:5711842015-02-15T03:01:00.357ZKeithhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Keith
<p>Hey Carol, shut up. lol<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Carol said:</cite></p>
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<p>Hey Carol, shut up. lol<br/> <br/> <cite>Carol said:</cite></p>
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</blockquote> Carol said:Extreme closeup…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2015-02-14:1566398:Comment:5711822015-02-14T22:53:32.015ZCarolhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/CarolMorrow
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Carol said:Extreme closeup green!!! yummie!! lololol!!…</cite></p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Carol said:Extreme closeup green!!! yummie!! lololol!!</cite></p>
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</blockquote> The EPA banned chemicals caus…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2015-02-14:1566398:Comment:5712522015-02-14T21:23:43.590ZKeithhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Keith
<p>The EPA banned chemicals caused a formula change in the late 80's/early 90's. Any bottle-capped USA lava lamp is EPA compliant. So all those great flowing 90's lamps should be reproduceable even from a chinese factory, but we all know that is not the case. </p>
<p>Carol, one of these days I'm gonna order the liquid candle wax dye that Vox recommends and recolor the green goo. At least the faded purple and watermelon still look nice.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Carol said:…</cite></p>
<p>The EPA banned chemicals caused a formula change in the late 80's/early 90's. Any bottle-capped USA lava lamp is EPA compliant. So all those great flowing 90's lamps should be reproduceable even from a chinese factory, but we all know that is not the case. </p>
<p>Carol, one of these days I'm gonna order the liquid candle wax dye that Vox recommends and recolor the green goo. At least the faded purple and watermelon still look nice.<br/> <br/> <cite>Carol said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/i-can-t-believe-the-state-of-lava-lite?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A571342&xg_source=activity#1566398Comment571342"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I've also heard that a lot of the chemicals that they used to use back "in the day" have since been banned by the EPA. They used to use some harsh crap back then in production of things that can't be used anymore. Then again, look at the MT goo. That's not toxic and I get great flow from my goo! That's if I can find a decent coil to use because even the LL coils coming out of the newer lamps I seem to have issues with. Glass is crap, coils bad, like I gave up on them after 4 neons went to hell in a hand basket really quick. That's how I found this site. Didn't know I couldn't use my lava lamps for night lights and run them 24/7, haahaaa......back when I was a "goo virgin". Anyway, Keith, 3 neon green 52's look like what Linda Blair on the 1st Exorcist movie spewed up!!! I'm going to goo kit my son's LL green into the nice green blend that I have in my room. The other 2 greens and including my neon purple have since been kitted.</p>
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</blockquote> I've also heard that a lot of…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2015-02-14:1566398:Comment:5713422015-02-14T17:50:40.603ZCarolhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/CarolMorrow
<p>I've also heard that a lot of the chemicals that they used to use back "in the day" have since been banned by the EPA. They used to use some harsh crap back then in production of things that can't be used anymore. Then again, look at the MT goo. That's not toxic and I get great flow from my goo! That's if I can find a decent coil to use because even the LL coils coming out of the newer lamps I seem to have issues with. Glass is crap, coils bad, like I gave up on them after 4 neons went…</p>
<p>I've also heard that a lot of the chemicals that they used to use back "in the day" have since been banned by the EPA. They used to use some harsh crap back then in production of things that can't be used anymore. Then again, look at the MT goo. That's not toxic and I get great flow from my goo! That's if I can find a decent coil to use because even the LL coils coming out of the newer lamps I seem to have issues with. Glass is crap, coils bad, like I gave up on them after 4 neons went to hell in a hand basket really quick. That's how I found this site. Didn't know I couldn't use my lava lamps for night lights and run them 24/7, haahaaa......back when I was a "goo virgin". Anyway, Keith, 3 neon green 52's look like what Linda Blair on the 1st Exorcist movie spewed up!!! I'm going to goo kit my son's LL green into the nice green blend that I have in my room. The other 2 greens and including my neon purple have since been kitted.</p> I know I have been fortunate…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2015-02-14:1566398:Comment:5711702015-02-14T16:29:51.469ZKeithhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Keith
<p>I know I have been fortunate in the lamps I have purchased in the last few years. But still 20% of them have been bad out of the box. And with my 52 oz neons, all 4 colors, the wax has faded considerably. Even my green heritage grande has faded in the 9 months or so since I bought it. Not as bad of a problem as poor or no flow, but it shouldn't happen. The green is taking on an unfortunately yucky color. :(</p>
<p>I know I have been fortunate in the lamps I have purchased in the last few years. But still 20% of them have been bad out of the box. And with my 52 oz neons, all 4 colors, the wax has faded considerably. Even my green heritage grande has faded in the 9 months or so since I bought it. Not as bad of a problem as poor or no flow, but it shouldn't happen. The green is taking on an unfortunately yucky color. :(</p> When I was on the wholesale s…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2015-02-13:1566398:Comment:5712212015-02-13T22:46:14.539ZNoneofyourBusiness Noseyhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/xn/detail/u_2puwttz5kvlb4
<p>When I was on the wholesale site not long ago I saw the prices for LL lamps- anywhere from 1-5 dollars for accent up to 52 ounce...Because it is sooo cheap for LL to make them in China and import them it is really not necessary for them to do much business. Its not like they are paying people to run a LL store, like Mathmos does in the UK. Think about it...each 52 ounce lamp they sell pays for a itself and 6 more to be made! Its quantity over quality and they're laughing all the way to…</p>
<p>When I was on the wholesale site not long ago I saw the prices for LL lamps- anywhere from 1-5 dollars for accent up to 52 ounce...Because it is sooo cheap for LL to make them in China and import them it is really not necessary for them to do much business. Its not like they are paying people to run a LL store, like Mathmos does in the UK. Think about it...each 52 ounce lamp they sell pays for a itself and 6 more to be made! Its quantity over quality and they're laughing all the way to the bank. Why improve if you 're already making money? The chances of them coming back to the states is very slim in my opinion since they'd have to pay higher wages for workers and I doubt the factory in China is what us Americans would consider "safe" so they'd have that to deal w here in the good ol' USA.</p> yeah, it makes you wonder how…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2015-02-13:1566398:Comment:5710352015-02-13T22:37:11.793ZBradhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/brad
<p>yeah, it makes you wonder how they are still in business. we are a picky bunch though, and i bet there are a ton of people out there that think that's just how lava lamps flow and so they deal with it. others probably pitch them since they're inexpensive and don't contact LL for replacements.</p>
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<p>erin - those all sound like reasonable explanations, especially 1 and 3.</p>
<p>yeah, it makes you wonder how they are still in business. we are a picky bunch though, and i bet there are a ton of people out there that think that's just how lava lamps flow and so they deal with it. others probably pitch them since they're inexpensive and don't contact LL for replacements.</p>
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<p>erin - those all sound like reasonable explanations, especially 1 and 3.</p> My friend's Grande that he bo…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2015-02-13:1566398:Comment:5712202015-02-13T20:46:53.207ZChrishttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/1ce0gqe3mbh36
<p>My friend's Grande that he bought right when I bought my China lamp is now dead too, and I am going to goo kit it for him. It defies all business logic that Lava Lite is still in business. This is a ridiculously high failure rate. I've seen some people suggest that 2 out of every 5 LL lamps goes bad--I'd be willing to venture that it's more like 3 or 4 out of 5. That is well beyond the acceptable failure rate.</p>
<p>Jeez--what would we ever do if Magma Tower went under?</p>
<p>My friend's Grande that he bought right when I bought my China lamp is now dead too, and I am going to goo kit it for him. It defies all business logic that Lava Lite is still in business. This is a ridiculously high failure rate. I've seen some people suggest that 2 out of every 5 LL lamps goes bad--I'd be willing to venture that it's more like 3 or 4 out of 5. That is well beyond the acceptable failure rate.</p>
<p>Jeez--what would we ever do if Magma Tower went under?</p> There have been many theories…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2015-02-13:1566398:Comment:5713062015-02-13T20:43:09.989ZErinhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/erin9
<p>There have been many theories over the years and it has to be one of three:</p>
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<p>1) They changed the formula</p>
<p>2) They lost the original formula</p>
<p>3) The Chinese factories aren't following the formula exactly, or they had to give them a modified version of it to make sure no one copied it. </p>
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<p>Lava Lite will never tell and I doubt they'll ever change.</p>
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Brad said:…</cite></p>
<p>There have been many theories over the years and it has to be one of three:</p>
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<p>1) They changed the formula</p>
<p>2) They lost the original formula</p>
<p>3) The Chinese factories aren't following the formula exactly, or they had to give them a modified version of it to make sure no one copied it. </p>
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<p>Lava Lite will never tell and I doubt they'll ever change.</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Brad said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/i-can-t-believe-the-state-of-lava-lite?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A571034&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment571034"><div><p>it would be nice to get an answer as to why china-made LL lamps don't flow as well as US-made. i've spent a ton of time reading random things on this board and the old forum (the pink and black one that is archived) and i think i saw something where an "ingredient" that was in US-made lamps wasn't able to be shipped from china. can anyone verify this, or am i just dreaming of things?</p>
<p>it seems like things would be much better with LL if their lamps would flow like they did in the 90's - made in china or not.</p>
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