That's it? That's the 50th Mathmos birthday lamp? - Oozing Goo - The Lava Lamp Syndicate2024-03-29T07:11:24Zhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/that-s-it-that-s-the-50th-mathmos-birthday?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A486666&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMy lamp came today!
I was o…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2013-10-02:1566398:Comment:4866662013-10-02T12:30:44.469ZMishmishhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/NicolaJayneCrookes
<p>My lamp came today!</p>
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<p>I was opening it at work to have a look and the woman opposite said 'oooh... Mathmos' and actually knew what it was. I did not know I shared a desk with a fellow enthusiast! She's only got a Telstar but did acknowledge that they're the best ones and wouldn't buy anything else. :)</p>
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<p>Can't wait to get home and have it running, quite surprised about how small the logo on the bottle is. It looks less naff than I expected.</p>
<p>My lamp came today!</p>
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<p>I was opening it at work to have a look and the woman opposite said 'oooh... Mathmos' and actually knew what it was. I did not know I shared a desk with a fellow enthusiast! She's only got a Telstar but did acknowledge that they're the best ones and wouldn't buy anything else. :)</p>
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<p>Can't wait to get home and have it running, quite surprised about how small the logo on the bottle is. It looks less naff than I expected.</p> Please stop thet out of subje…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2013-09-30:1566398:Comment:4861862013-09-30T19:47:49.483ZAstralavhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Astralav
<p>Please stop thet out of subject.</p>
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<p>If you want to talk about Lavalite Vs Mathmos, do your own thread.</p>
<p>This one is about how Mathmos dealt with their 50th birthday.</p>
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<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>Please stop thet out of subject.</p>
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<p>If you want to talk about Lavalite Vs Mathmos, do your own thread.</p>
<p>This one is about how Mathmos dealt with their 50th birthday.</p>
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<p>Thank you!</p> ^^^ See, now that's productiv…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2013-09-30:1566398:Comment:4864412013-09-30T13:27:53.388ZErinhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/erin9
<p>^^^ See, now that's productive. <br></br><br></br>We don't make anything here in the US anymore, either. Or very little. I can see why there's such pride in the Mathmos product; I'd be stoked too if my new lamps were made in the US. It's why so many of us in the states buy vintage, US-made ones. </p>
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<p>No one (or very few of us) here want to pay $60 for lamp, so in order for Lava Lite to stay profitable, they move production to China. $20 lamps means $20 quality. <br></br><br></br>Some of us are…</p>
<p>^^^ See, now that's productive. <br/><br/>We don't make anything here in the US anymore, either. Or very little. I can see why there's such pride in the Mathmos product; I'd be stoked too if my new lamps were made in the US. It's why so many of us in the states buy vintage, US-made ones. </p>
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<p>No one (or very few of us) here want to pay $60 for lamp, so in order for Lava Lite to stay profitable, they move production to China. $20 lamps means $20 quality. <br/><br/>Some of us are loyal to Lava Lite (or at least the vintage ones) and some of us keep hoping and hoping things will turn around, but I think we all know that's not going to happen.</p>
<p><br/>I honestly think both companies dropped the ball a little with the 50th, but Lava Lite did so in the most awful of fashion. It was nothing but a mere afterthought on their Facebook page. <br/><br/>I think we all know and agree that Mathmos quality is above Lava Lite, but that's a statement so obvious that it doesn't seem productive to keep blurting it out. </p> I wonder how much of it comes…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2013-09-30:1566398:Comment:4863842013-09-30T06:06:05.713ZMishmishhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/NicolaJayneCrookes
I wonder how much of it comes down to simple business and trying to stay in the black. It's ok to say 'why didn't they do this...' but the manufacturing industry in the UK has almost disappeared, and the costs of building new machines and design/storage/advertising of a completely new lamp probably costs more than they'd make back on it in the short term. I imagine It's the reason some of the lower selling ones aren't still in production.<br />
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For Mathmos to continue to operate in the current…
I wonder how much of it comes down to simple business and trying to stay in the black. It's ok to say 'why didn't they do this...' but the manufacturing industry in the UK has almost disappeared, and the costs of building new machines and design/storage/advertising of a completely new lamp probably costs more than they'd make back on it in the short term. I imagine It's the reason some of the lower selling ones aren't still in production.<br />
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For Mathmos to continue to operate in the current economic climate they've either got to be very savvy, or source cheaper production in another country which none of us want. I'd rather have a quality Astro than a cheapy new product. Even our most famous brands like Cadbury are no longer UK owned so if Mathmos did this to safeguard their profits then maybe a risk wasn't worth it.<br />
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Production in the UK is a very rare thing.<br />
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Maybe that's not the only reason but i'm sure it's part of it. Mathmos still produce a vastl…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2013-09-30:1566398:Comment:4863662013-09-30T00:07:38.002ZModulo '70https://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JeromeDopson
<p>Mathmos still produce a vastly superior product when all is said and done!</p>
<p>Mathmos still produce a vastly superior product when all is said and done!</p> It's obvious you both feel st…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2013-09-29:1566398:Comment:4861712013-09-29T21:32:29.845ZErinhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/erin9
<p>It's obvious you both feel strongly about this, and that's fine (and even good), but saying things like "you don't get it" and "rubbish from China" aren't moving this thread along. </p>
<p>It's obvious you both feel strongly about this, and that's fine (and even good), but saying things like "you don't get it" and "rubbish from China" aren't moving this thread along. </p> @Erin: that's my post.
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<p>@Erin: that's my post.</p>
<p>I can say I'm furious the way Mathmos dealt with their 50th birthday.</p>
<p>If some other are satisfied with their "color changed Astro", that's not my problem.</p>
<p>But when someone says I'm bashing Mathmos, that proves that person didn't understand the motive of this thread.</p>
<p>I tried to explain many times, but some people don't get it.</p>
<p>End of the point for me.</p>
<p>I love Mathmos products, that's why I'm so disapointed by what they've done…</p>
<p>@Erin: that's my post.</p>
<p>I can say I'm furious the way Mathmos dealt with their 50th birthday.</p>
<p>If some other are satisfied with their "color changed Astro", that's not my problem.</p>
<p>But when someone says I'm bashing Mathmos, that proves that person didn't understand the motive of this thread.</p>
<p>I tried to explain many times, but some people don't get it.</p>
<p>End of the point for me.</p>
<p>I love Mathmos products, that's why I'm so disapointed by what they've done (or didn't in this case).</p> You can criticize, but be con…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2013-09-29:1566398:Comment:4861702013-09-29T21:18:32.273ZErinhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/erin9
<p>You can criticize, but be constructive. We're all entitled to our own opinions here, but I'm getting really tired of generic "brand X sucks" comments. </p>
<p><br/>It's OK to be let down by Mathmos. It's OK to hate Lava Lite. But, unless you have something new or thoughtful to add to the discussion, the fighting needs to stop. We're not getting anywhere here. </p>
<p>You can criticize, but be constructive. We're all entitled to our own opinions here, but I'm getting really tired of generic "brand X sucks" comments. </p>
<p><br/>It's OK to be let down by Mathmos. It's OK to hate Lava Lite. But, unless you have something new or thoughtful to add to the discussion, the fighting needs to stop. We're not getting anywhere here. </p> Alright, that's enough. Take…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2013-09-29:1566398:Comment:4862792013-09-29T21:12:32.816ZErinhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/erin9
<p>Alright, that's enough. Take the personal stuff offline. You can be critical, but only if you're going to be constructive. This thread is getting de-railed, so I'm going to ask politely to keep it back on track and save the name-calling and snarky comments for private messages. </p>
<p>Alright, that's enough. Take the personal stuff offline. You can be critical, but only if you're going to be constructive. This thread is getting de-railed, so I'm going to ask politely to keep it back on track and save the name-calling and snarky comments for private messages. </p> OK confirmed: you definitivel…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2013-09-29:1566398:Comment:4862782013-09-29T21:02:24.351ZAstralavhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Astralav
<p>OK confirmed: you definitively don't get it.</p>
<p>Can't help you.</p>
<p>Sorry</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>neil neil orange peel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/that-s-it-that-s-the-50th-mathmos-birthday?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A486358&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment486358"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Oh yes I do get it. Its the constant slagging off of Mathmos that gets to me.</p>
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<p>OK confirmed: you definitively don't get it.</p>
<p>Can't help you.</p>
<p>Sorry</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>neil neil orange peel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/that-s-it-that-s-the-50th-mathmos-birthday?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A486358&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment486358"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Oh yes I do get it. Its the constant slagging off of Mathmos that gets to me.</p>
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