Does salt solution bleach wax over time? - Oozing Goo - The Lava Lamp Syndicate2024-03-29T01:28:29Zhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/does-salt-solution-bleach-wax?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A139597&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAn advice if you are trying t…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2010-07-16:1566398:Comment:1507632010-07-16T13:59:25.160ZMagicLamphttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/MagicLamp
An advice if you are trying to make "saltless" lamps: doing so increases wax-glassl stickyness, which will only go away if you just happen to dump the exact type and dose of anti-surfactant agents (pen ink seems to work, as does dish detergent, but especially with the latter it's easier to go overboard and turn all of the wax into a runny mess).<br />
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Also if you use wax that is not 100% paraffin, it also has an increased tendency to stick to walls. Using salt has the advantage that it virtually…
An advice if you are trying to make "saltless" lamps: doing so increases wax-glassl stickyness, which will only go away if you just happen to dump the exact type and dose of anti-surfactant agents (pen ink seems to work, as does dish detergent, but especially with the latter it's easier to go overboard and turn all of the wax into a runny mess).<br />
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Also if you use wax that is not 100% paraffin, it also has an increased tendency to stick to walls. Using salt has the advantage that it virtually eliminates wall stickyness and so you can get away with much more rough wax mixtures, even in relatively small quantities. Hi Marcel. Just wanted to chi…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2010-07-13:1566398:Comment:1504182010-07-13T17:41:36.680ZLavaMeisterhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/LavaMeister
Hi Marcel. Just wanted to chime in here and let you know something in case you don't. Animals adore antifreeze. It kills them in pretty short order. Be careful not to break that lamp if you have pets. They will be attracted to the liquid spill like flies to .....well you know what.
Hi Marcel. Just wanted to chime in here and let you know something in case you don't. Animals adore antifreeze. It kills them in pretty short order. Be careful not to break that lamp if you have pets. They will be attracted to the liquid spill like flies to .....well you know what. As promised here's a pic of m…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2010-04-26:1566398:Comment:1405932010-04-26T20:29:42.493ZMagicLamphttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/MagicLamp
As promised here's a pic of my latest creation: <a href="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/photo/albums/poison-ivy">Poison Ivy</a>, a fluo green wax + purple liquid beauty :-)<br />
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Despite the name, it uses very high quality materials and most importantly - no salt.<br />
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The fluid is just distilled water coloured with some blue pen ink, and I adjusted the perc in this way: I initially mixed just enough perc so the wax wouldn't just go up in flakes, let it float up in one bubble, and then added perc little by…
As promised here's a pic of my latest creation: <a href="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/photo/albums/poison-ivy">Poison Ivy</a>, a fluo green wax + purple liquid beauty :-)<br />
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Despite the name, it uses very high quality materials and most importantly - no salt.<br />
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The fluid is just distilled water coloured with some blue pen ink, and I adjusted the perc in this way: I initially mixed just enough perc so the wax wouldn't just go up in flakes, let it float up in one bubble, and then added perc little by little at the top of the bottle (directly ONTO the wax) until I achieved the desired density. There, no salt, so it should be in theory corrosion free. No antifreeze either - except for a tiny amount I used more for color correction. Very interesting! Have you po…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2010-04-21:1566398:Comment:1401552010-04-21T01:55:55.322ZJenniferhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Jennifer60
Very interesting! Have you posted a picture, if not, please do!
Very interesting! Have you posted a picture, if not, please do! Great! I do this too, the les…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2010-04-19:1566398:Comment:1400682010-04-19T14:07:02.297ZJenniferhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Jennifer60
Great! I do this too, the less perk I add the less salt I have to add. It's fun messing with the amounts-I'm the type that I don't meassure anything. I never use recipes in cooking either!
Great! I do this too, the less perk I add the less salt I have to add. It's fun messing with the amounts-I'm the type that I don't meassure anything. I never use recipes in cooking either! As always, there's a big "but…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2010-04-18:1566398:Comment:1400372010-04-18T23:51:37.187ZMagicLamphttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/MagicLamp
As always, there's a big "but" to everything: it's possible to create an entirely salt-free and additive-free lamp as I did today: my little "secret" was in the way I mixed the wax with the perc, allowing me to add more perc to the wax as needed instead of adding additives to the water.<br />
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Pics & story coming soon in another thread ;-)
As always, there's a big "but" to everything: it's possible to create an entirely salt-free and additive-free lamp as I did today: my little "secret" was in the way I mixed the wax with the perc, allowing me to add more perc to the wax as needed instead of adding additives to the water.<br />
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Pics & story coming soon in another thread ;-) Yeah I do. Basically it's a t…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2010-04-18:1566398:Comment:1399872010-04-18T01:18:25.341ZMagicLamphttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/MagicLamp
Yeah I do. Basically it's a tradeoff between durability (still to be seen) and ease/range of adjustement.<br />
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Salt allows for easier adjustments at almost constant volume and more density ranges to play with, at the expense of (potential) long-term problems.<br />
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Using other means of adjusting density means that your perc will also have to be within certain density restraints (e.g. too dense perc can't be handled by non-corrosive, salt-free solutions) and that getting a precise amount of fluid of the…
Yeah I do. Basically it's a tradeoff between durability (still to be seen) and ease/range of adjustement.<br />
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Salt allows for easier adjustments at almost constant volume and more density ranges to play with, at the expense of (potential) long-term problems.<br />
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Using other means of adjusting density means that your perc will also have to be within certain density restraints (e.g. too dense perc can't be handled by non-corrosive, salt-free solutions) and that getting a precise amount of fluid of the type you want will be harder.<br />
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All lamps I made so far use salt (and one even has iodized salt, with no ill effects so far). Wow, thanks for your info.! I…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2010-04-15:1566398:Comment:1398582010-04-15T13:17:12.283ZJenniferhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Jennifer60
Wow, thanks for your info.! I think I might have asked this before, but do you use salt?
Wow, thanks for your info.! I think I might have asked this before, but do you use salt? Yeah, the original formula an…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2010-04-14:1566398:Comment:1397712010-04-14T08:00:43.987ZMagicLamphttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/MagicLamp
Yeah, the original formula and most commercial lava lamps contain propylene or ethylene glycol.<br />
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The problem is that you don't know how much you'll need to add beforehand, and that compared to salt, it adds a LOT of volume unless you can find it pure, which is not always the case.<br />
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Prop glycol (safe) or Ethylene Glycol (which is POISONOUS) can be commonly found in antifreeze products, but they are already mixed with water.<br />
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Also, prop glycol has a lower pure density of 1.03 compared to eth.…
Yeah, the original formula and most commercial lava lamps contain propylene or ethylene glycol.<br />
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The problem is that you don't know how much you'll need to add beforehand, and that compared to salt, it adds a LOT of volume unless you can find it pure, which is not always the case.<br />
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Prop glycol (safe) or Ethylene Glycol (which is POISONOUS) can be commonly found in antifreeze products, but they are already mixed with water.<br />
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Also, prop glycol has a lower pure density of 1.03 compared to eth. glycol (1.11) so e.g. 10% of pure prop glycol to distilled water, won't change it very quickly. Even using pure prop glycol would only give 1.03 density, which wouldn't have been enough for certain of my goos (there's also the uncertainty of the actual goo's density). Ethylene glycol can give a max of 1.11 is used pure In order to accomodate for such slow density changes when adding glycol, you'd have to start with a near-empty globe, and once you figure out the precise ratio of glycol to water, you'd have to replicate it OUTSIDE the globe as well, if you wish to add more fluid.<br />
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With solid salts, you can start with the correct amount of fluid and just add them as you go, without worrying about e.g. filling the globe way before having reached the correct density.<br />
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As I said, the proper procedure would be to determine the exact density of YOUR ooze beforehand by measuring samples of it, and then engineer the fluid specifically for your needs, all outside the globe. But it's longer, tedious, and not really worth it unless you make A LOT of lava lamps and/or you follow exactly the same formula for each of them.<br />
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To make a comparison, a fully saturated saltwater solution can reach density 1.20, which is quite a leeway to play with. Couldn't you add the pure gly…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2010-04-13:1566398:Comment:1396892010-04-13T13:16:06.639ZJenniferhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Jennifer60
Couldn't you add the pure glycol like you add the salt, a couple drops at a time, seeing the waxes reaction?<br />
What is pure glycol? Where do you find it?<br />
Is this what is in a lava lamp?
Couldn't you add the pure glycol like you add the salt, a couple drops at a time, seeing the waxes reaction?<br />
What is pure glycol? Where do you find it?<br />
Is this what is in a lava lamp?