Help with my recipe/balance? - Oozing Goo - The Lava Lamp Syndicate2024-03-29T09:39:52Zhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/help-with-my-recipe-balance?xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI have found that often my pr…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-08-20:1566398:Comment:8633062022-08-20T05:47:10.316ZArnehttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/kalel
<p>I have found that often my problem was not to be patient enough. when filling the masterfluid into the bottle small air bubble sometimes get trapped especially with high density MF for metallic/glitterball lamps but it also happens with normal MF. When adding the wax too early those bubbles get caught under the wax and prevent it from sinking. Even if the balance is right there are ways to screw up and have the wax just sitting at the top of the bottle. Sometimes when adding the wax air…</p>
<p>I have found that often my problem was not to be patient enough. when filling the masterfluid into the bottle small air bubble sometimes get trapped especially with high density MF for metallic/glitterball lamps but it also happens with normal MF. When adding the wax too early those bubbles get caught under the wax and prevent it from sinking. Even if the balance is right there are ways to screw up and have the wax just sitting at the top of the bottle. Sometimes when adding the wax air bubbles get stuck at the wax even if I waited for the bubble in the MF to rise and disapear before.</p> I usually get frustrated and…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-08-19:1566398:Comment:8631422022-08-19T09:27:06.654ZMacRaniumhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/MacRanium
<p>I usually get frustrated and end up buying a bunch of Claude's wax. I have 2 globes running my own recipe and it took weeks to get them right. Weighing everything and writing it all down and storing vats of bad batches. That's the routine.</p>
<p>I usually get frustrated and end up buying a bunch of Claude's wax. I have 2 globes running my own recipe and it took weeks to get them right. Weighing everything and writing it all down and storing vats of bad batches. That's the routine.</p> Sane here
Been acid soaking t…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-08-17:1566398:Comment:8633952022-08-17T16:32:50.156ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
<p>Sane here</p>
<p>Been acid soaking them<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Mattgyver92 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/help-with-my-recipe-balance?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A863139&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment863139"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>After finding a coil that seemed to play nicely with my wax, I can now say had repeated success with my recipe. :)</p>
<p>I've balanced 6 lamp bottles to flow pretty nicely over the past two weeks.…</p>
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<p>Sane here</p>
<p>Been acid soaking them<br/> <br/> <cite>Mattgyver92 said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/help-with-my-recipe-balance?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A863139&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment863139"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>After finding a coil that seemed to play nicely with my wax, I can now say had repeated success with my recipe. :)</p>
<p>I've balanced 6 lamp bottles to flow pretty nicely over the past two weeks. Only issues I've had were from one of the bottles I tested with a tiny dab of oil paint in the wax. Makes a chalky looking film on the wax once melted and eventually clouds my fluid every time. Also not a great look with dark colored lava.</p>
<p>I think 90% of the balancing issues I was having over the past several months were from bad coil / wax adhesion. With a working coil, it's a LOT easier to get them right and I have a lot more confidence making these.</p>
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</blockquote> After finding a coil that see…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-08-17:1566398:Comment:8631392022-08-17T13:14:38.024ZMattgyver92https://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Matt899
<p>After finding a coil that seemed to play nicely with my wax, I can now say had repeated success with my recipe. :)</p>
<p>I've balanced 6 lamp bottles to flow pretty nicely over the past two weeks. Only issues I've had were from one of the bottles I tested with a tiny dab of oil paint in the wax. Makes a chalky looking film on the wax once melted and eventually clouds my fluid every time. Also not a great look with dark colored lava.</p>
<p>I think 90% of the balancing issues I was having…</p>
<p>After finding a coil that seemed to play nicely with my wax, I can now say had repeated success with my recipe. :)</p>
<p>I've balanced 6 lamp bottles to flow pretty nicely over the past two weeks. Only issues I've had were from one of the bottles I tested with a tiny dab of oil paint in the wax. Makes a chalky looking film on the wax once melted and eventually clouds my fluid every time. Also not a great look with dark colored lava.</p>
<p>I think 90% of the balancing issues I was having over the past several months were from bad coil / wax adhesion. With a working coil, it's a LOT easier to get them right and I have a lot more confidence making these.</p> we are back in stock with rep…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-08-17:1566398:Comment:8632192022-08-17T05:14:03.981ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
<p>we are back in stock with replacement lava wax<br></br>Flow is pretty good and overheating has been addressed<br></br>took @dozemn mods to our recipe to get it right when upscaled<br></br>it is a delicate balance</p>
<p>ONE SHOTGLASS full of hi-temp wax per 5 gal batch will toss the formula off<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Claude J said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/help-with-my-recipe-balance#1566398Comment862954"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>17" / 32oz globes, then…</p>
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<p>we are back in stock with replacement lava wax<br/>Flow is pretty good and overheating has been addressed<br/>took @dozemn mods to our recipe to get it right when upscaled<br/>it is a delicate balance</p>
<p>ONE SHOTGLASS full of hi-temp wax per 5 gal batch will toss the formula off<br/> <br/> <cite>Claude J said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/help-with-my-recipe-balance#1566398Comment862954"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>17" / 32oz globes, then a 16.3/52oz</p>
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</blockquote> 17" / 32oz globes, then a 16.…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-08-07:1566398:Comment:8629542022-08-07T02:47:12.280ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
<p>17" / 32oz globes, then a 16.3/52oz</p>
<p>17" / 32oz globes, then a 16.3/52oz</p> I'm glad to know I'm not the…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-08-07:1566398:Comment:8627802022-08-07T01:49:19.261ZMattgyver92https://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Matt899
<p>I'm glad to know I'm not the only one feeling like I'm spinning my wheels out here.</p>
<p>How do you do such a small test? Mini sized coil, bottle and stand?</p>
<p>I'm glad to know I'm not the only one feeling like I'm spinning my wheels out here.</p>
<p>How do you do such a small test? Mini sized coil, bottle and stand?</p> Welcome to our world !!!!!!!!…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-08-06:1566398:Comment:8627742022-08-06T23:41:37.496ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
<p>Welcome to our world !!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>to perfect our recipe, Kari has done over 1000+++ 150ml tests batches over the last year<br></br>We have several large (5 last count?) gallon ICE Cream buckets filled with failed tests batches<br></br><br></br>With PERC, you're not going to get a good flow (if any) with just distilled water,<br></br>You need to adjust the fluid density</p>
<p>the PERC density effects will not last (especially if overheated when mixing)<br></br><br></br><br></br>Also bear in mind that PG is an…</p>
<p>Welcome to our world !!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>to perfect our recipe, Kari has done over 1000+++ 150ml tests batches over the last year<br/>We have several large (5 last count?) gallon ICE Cream buckets filled with failed tests batches<br/><br/>With PERC, you're not going to get a good flow (if any) with just distilled water,<br/>You need to adjust the fluid density</p>
<p>the PERC density effects will not last (especially if overheated when mixing)<br/><br/><br/>Also bear in mind that PG is an emulsifier, and will soften the wax for flow (a good thing)<br/>But,...Use too much and it will go cloudy</p> Hmm. I like the two jar test…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-08-06:1566398:Comment:8630392022-08-06T16:33:11.879ZMattgyver92https://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Matt899
<p>Hmm. I like the two jar test idea. I'll have to test it with some of my troublesome bottles. I might be able to make a tool that can remove a 'core' of wax out of the bottle without me having to melt the wax and drain my globe out for this.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>tim said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/help-with-my-recipe-balance?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A863036&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment863036"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>it's…</p>
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<p>Hmm. I like the two jar test idea. I'll have to test it with some of my troublesome bottles. I might be able to make a tool that can remove a 'core' of wax out of the bottle without me having to melt the wax and drain my globe out for this.<br/> <br/> <cite>tim said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/help-with-my-recipe-balance?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A863036&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment863036"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>it's very precise and in my opinion a lot of luck. i've attempted probably like 10 lamps at this point and have only gotten good flow out of two of them.</p>
<p>i will say one trick is to mix a wax that is going to be too heavy. you can always add more stuff to the water to make it denser, but if the wax floats in pure distilled water there is nothing you can do to adjust the water and you will have to start over with the wax. i figure that since i am going to be off in my measurements every single batch i make it is better to be off in that i added too much perc rather than not enough.</p>
<p>another thing that you can try is mix two test jars of liquid: one pure distilled water and one the heaviest fluid you am willing to use (in my case something like 85% water and 15% glycerin). after mixing the wax and letting it harden take a sample and drop it into both liquids. if it sinks in the pure water and floats in the other one you'll know that it is a viable wax because the appropriate fluid lies somewhere between the two extremes. if it doesn't then you just have to add more perc or wax and try again.</p>
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</blockquote> it's very precise and in my o…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-08-06:1566398:Comment:8630362022-08-06T15:00:51.752Ztimhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/tim547
<p>it's very precise and in my opinion a lot of luck. i've attempted probably like 10 lamps at this point and have only gotten good flow out of two of them.</p>
<p>i will say one trick is to mix a wax that is going to be too heavy. you can always add more stuff to the water to make it denser, but if the wax floats in pure distilled water there is nothing you can do to adjust the water and you will have to start over with the wax. i figure that since i am going to be off in my measurements every…</p>
<p>it's very precise and in my opinion a lot of luck. i've attempted probably like 10 lamps at this point and have only gotten good flow out of two of them.</p>
<p>i will say one trick is to mix a wax that is going to be too heavy. you can always add more stuff to the water to make it denser, but if the wax floats in pure distilled water there is nothing you can do to adjust the water and you will have to start over with the wax. i figure that since i am going to be off in my measurements every single batch i make it is better to be off in that i added too much perc rather than not enough.</p>
<p>another thing that you can try is mix two test jars of liquid: one pure distilled water and one the heaviest fluid you am willing to use (in my case something like 85% water and 15% glycerin). after mixing the wax and letting it harden take a sample and drop it into both liquids. if it sinks in the pure water and floats in the other one you'll know that it is a viable wax because the appropriate fluid lies somewhere between the two extremes. if it doesn't then you just have to add more perc or wax and try again.</p>