Trying to crack the original formula- why was kerosene used? - Oozing Goo - The Lava Lamp Syndicate2024-03-28T17:28:54Zhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?id=1566398%3ATopic%3A823139&feed=yes&xn_auth=noExcellent! Thanks again Tev!…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2023-05-21:1566398:Comment:8741732023-05-21T16:59:17.926ZZachhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Zach597
<p>Excellent! Thanks again Tev! Really enjoy your posts. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Tevfik Dogruman said:</cite></p>
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<p>Excellent! Thanks again Tev! Really enjoy your posts. <br/> <br/> <cite>Tevfik Dogruman said:</cite></p>
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<p>I used surfactant SLES. I prepared 25% SLES and added 1ml.</p>
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</blockquote> Hi Zach, I used a 12 volt 35…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2023-05-21:1566398:Comment:8740472023-05-21T15:42:31.220ZTevfik Dogrumanhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/TevfikDogruman
<p>Hi Zach, I used a 12 volt 35 watt halogen bulb. Here are the pictures.</p>
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<p>I used surfactant SLES. I prepared 25% SLES and added…</p>
<p>Hi Zach, I used a 12 volt 35 watt halogen bulb. Here are the pictures.</p>
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<p>I used surfactant SLES. I prepared 25% SLES and added 1ml.</p> Hey Tev! A couple more questi…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2023-05-20:1566398:Comment:8739412023-05-20T23:15:44.484ZZachhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Zach597
<p>Hey Tev! A couple more questions sir. How much surf were you using in this picture and what wattage bulb? Was the bulb being ran with no dimmer? Thanks! <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Tevfik Dogruman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A874100#1566398Comment874004"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Zach, wax does not harden completely. If we do this with chlorinated…</p>
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<p>Hey Tev! A couple more questions sir. How much surf were you using in this picture and what wattage bulb? Was the bulb being ran with no dimmer? Thanks! <br/> <br/> <cite>Tevfik Dogruman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A874100#1566398Comment874004"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Zach, wax does not harden completely. If we do this with chlorinated paraffin instead of wax. It will be harder as we won't be using it in Perc. Less liquid material, harder wax.<br/> <br/> <cite>Zach said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?id=1566398%3ATopic%3A823139&page=14#1566398Comment874100"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Tevfik! Quick question, just want to make sure I’m understanding, the lamp on the left is made with 25g microcrystalline, 35g liquid paraffin, 4g kerosene and 1.5 dye? I’ve tried that and my wax won’t seem to harden. It just stays jelly-like. Does yours harden? Thanks! <br/></p>
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</blockquote> Oh ok! Makes sense! Thank you…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2023-05-17:1566398:Comment:8742012023-05-17T18:42:09.067ZZachhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Zach597
<p>Oh ok! Makes sense! Thank you! <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Tevfik Dogruman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A874100#1566398Comment874004"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Zach, wax does not harden completely. If we do this with chlorinated paraffin instead of wax. It will be harder as we won't be using it in Perc. Less liquid material, harder wax.…<br></br> <br></br></p>
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<p>Oh ok! Makes sense! Thank you! <br/> <br/> <cite>Tevfik Dogruman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A874100#1566398Comment874004"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Zach, wax does not harden completely. If we do this with chlorinated paraffin instead of wax. It will be harder as we won't be using it in Perc. Less liquid material, harder wax.<br/> <br/> <cite>Zach said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?id=1566398%3ATopic%3A823139&page=14#1566398Comment874100"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Tevfik! Quick question, just want to make sure I’m understanding, the lamp on the left is made with 25g microcrystalline, 35g liquid paraffin, 4g kerosene and 1.5 dye? I’ve tried that and my wax won’t seem to harden. It just stays jelly-like. Does yours harden? Thanks! <br/></p>
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</blockquote> Hi Zach, wax does not harden…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2023-05-17:1566398:Comment:8740042023-05-17T16:31:33.290ZTevfik Dogrumanhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/TevfikDogruman
<p>Hi Zach, wax does not harden completely. If we do this with chlorinated paraffin instead of wax. It will be harder as we won't be using it in Perc. Less liquid material, harder wax.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Zach said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?id=1566398%3ATopic%3A823139&page=14#1566398Comment874100"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Tevfik! Quick question, just want to make sure I’m…</p>
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<p>Hi Zach, wax does not harden completely. If we do this with chlorinated paraffin instead of wax. It will be harder as we won't be using it in Perc. Less liquid material, harder wax.<br/> <br/> <cite>Zach said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?id=1566398%3ATopic%3A823139&page=14#1566398Comment874100"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Tevfik! Quick question, just want to make sure I’m understanding, the lamp on the left is made with 25g microcrystalline, 35g liquid paraffin, 4g kerosene and 1.5 dye? I’ve tried that and my wax won’t seem to harden. It just stays jelly-like. Does yours harden? Thanks! <br/> <br/></p>
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</blockquote> Hi Tevfik! Quick question, ju…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2023-05-17:1566398:Comment:8741002023-05-17T00:49:26.527ZZachhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Zach597
<p>Hi Tevfik! Quick question, just want to make sure I’m understanding, the lamp on the left is made with 25g microcrystalline, 35g liquid paraffin, 4g kerosene and 1.5 dye? I’ve tried that and my wax won’t seem to harden. It just stays jelly-like. Does yours harden? Thanks! <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Tevfik Dogruman said:…</cite></p>
<p>Hi Tevfik! Quick question, just want to make sure I’m understanding, the lamp on the left is made with 25g microcrystalline, 35g liquid paraffin, 4g kerosene and 1.5 dye? I’ve tried that and my wax won’t seem to harden. It just stays jelly-like. Does yours harden? Thanks! <br/> <br/> <cite>Tevfik Dogruman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?xg_source=activity&id=1566398%3ATopic%3A823139&page=10#1566398Comment841520"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>The weekend did two studies. Most importantly, I could not highlight the green color exactly. When the wax melts with the effect of light, the green color looks red. I finally made it. The other problem was opacity, I also managed that.<br/>I made the right side lamp with liquid Paraffin (Mineral oil) 35g, Solid paraffin 25g, kerosene 4g, perc 45g and dye (pebeo oil paint-green) 1.5g. There were no snaky movements. I set it aside. In the new one, I used Microcrystalline wax instead of paraffin. Seeing in the picture is your appreciation.<br/>In what I set aside, I added 35g of natural beeswax (Yellow) and 16g of kerosene. Both of them have been working for 4 hours.</p>
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<p>The liquid part is pure water, glycerin and sles.</p>
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</blockquote> No your right, here's the rep…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2023-02-02:1566398:Comment:8701212023-02-02T09:35:25.446ZJohn Maroneyhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JohnMaroney
<p>No your right, here's the report on the guy that ingested it:</p>
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<p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8644972/" target="_blank">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8644972/</a><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Ant Bee said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used#1566398Comment823466"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Microcrystalline is a type of paraffin wax that has a denser structure. It has a…</p>
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<p>No your right, here's the report on the guy that ingested it:</p>
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<p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8644972/" target="_blank">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8644972/</a><br/> <br/> <cite>Ant Bee said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used#1566398Comment823466"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Microcrystalline is a type of paraffin wax that has a denser structure. It has a higher melting point, which is what I THINK makes it do the spiking. I add a little bit to my normal paraffin/LP mixture to impart some of the characteristics of oldschool lava. However, if you make the mixture entirely of microcrystalline, it has a really hard time melting and just kinda sits there in a permanent "warmup" phase.<br/><br/>Kerosene is lighter than perc- it floats on water.<br/><br/></p>
<p>The original formula is not known, we just know a little bit because some dude ingested a lava lamp and the hospital requested the ingredients. Lava Lite obliged but only to a certain extent- hence why we know kerosene was involved. (I may be getting my facts a little wrong here)<br/><br/>One thing we do know is that Crayola used to provide their wax. However, crayons don't work well for this, because they have a hardening agent that really screws things up in a lot of ways. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how I could go about removing that agent, because melted crayola wax in a lamp looks JUST like vintage lava.</p>
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</blockquote> synthetic thinner instead of…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-12-11:1566398:Comment:8670852022-12-11T03:03:37.259ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
<p><br></br> <span>synthetic thinner instead of kerosene in my works. Then the beautiful column is formed.</span></p>
<p><br></br>What did you use for a kerosene substitute???<br></br> <cite>bob said:</cite></p>
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<p><br/> <span>synthetic thinner instead of kerosene in my works. Then the beautiful column is formed.</span></p>
<p><br/>What did you use for a kerosene substitute???<br/> <cite>bob said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A867084&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment867084"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><br/> <br/> <cite>Dmytro Lapchuk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?id=1566398%3ATopic%3A823139&page=13#1566398Comment865847"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I tried to do according to this formula. The consistency turned out to be similar. But I have a problem: when heated, bubbles of air (or other gas) rise from the formed paraffin, as a result, my bulb explodes. Situation was the same with kerosene or synthetic thinner. Microcrystalline wax does not dissolve either there or there. I mixed it with 70% chloroparaffin by heating it in a water bath. Does anyone know what the problem is? Why does the bulb explode?<br/> <br/> <cite>Tevfik Dogruman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?id=1566398%3ATopic%3A823139&page=2#1566398Comment824429"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>While researching the formulas on the Internet, I found a report on kerosene use. The report is on the safety of the mixture. Maybe it can help you to give ideas.</p>
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<p>I think kerosene holds the ingredients together in the mixture. Chlorinated paraffin density enhancer. Microcrystalline paraffin can be for opacity. I use synthetic thinner instead of kerosene in my works. Then the beautiful column is formed.</p>
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<p>where can i get chloranated parafin wax plse anyone im in the uk . thanks .</p>
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I trie…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-12-11:1566398:Comment:8670842022-12-11T01:43:48.885Zbobhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/bob287
<p><br></br> <br></br> <cite>Dmytro Lapchuk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?id=1566398%3ATopic%3A823139&page=13#1566398Comment865847"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I tried to do according to this formula. The consistency turned out to be similar. But I have a problem: when heated, bubbles of air (or other gas) rise from the formed paraffin, as a result, my bulb explodes. Situation was the…</p>
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<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Dmytro Lapchuk said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?id=1566398%3ATopic%3A823139&page=13#1566398Comment865847"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I tried to do according to this formula. The consistency turned out to be similar. But I have a problem: when heated, bubbles of air (or other gas) rise from the formed paraffin, as a result, my bulb explodes. Situation was the same with kerosene or synthetic thinner. Microcrystalline wax does not dissolve either there or there. I mixed it with 70% chloroparaffin by heating it in a water bath. Does anyone know what the problem is? Why does the bulb explode?<br/> <br/> <cite>Tevfik Dogruman said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-crack-the-original-formula-why-was-kerosene-used?id=1566398%3ATopic%3A823139&page=2#1566398Comment824429"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>While researching the formulas on the Internet, I found a report on kerosene use. The report is on the safety of the mixture. Maybe it can help you to give ideas.</p>
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<p>I think kerosene holds the ingredients together in the mixture. Chlorinated paraffin density enhancer. Microcrystalline paraffin can be for opacity. I use synthetic thinner instead of kerosene in my works. Then the beautiful column is formed.</p>
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<p>where can i get chloranated parafin wax plse anyone im in the uk . thanks .</p>
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</blockquote> how did you make your lamp st…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2022-12-11:1566398:Comment:8671962022-12-11T00:58:42.229Zbobhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/bob287
<p>how did you make your lamp structure thats what part im up to i think i need a lesson in eletrics..thnks</p>
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<p>how did you make your lamp structure thats what part im up to i think i need a lesson in eletrics..thnks</p>
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