Trying to find a better goo formulation - Oozing Goo - The Lava Lamp Syndicate2024-03-28T21:35:45Zhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/trying-to-find-a-better-goo-formulation?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A692815&feed=yes&xn_auth=noEven using only one bead, the…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2019-05-28:1566398:Comment:6930922019-05-28T22:29:40.126ZBaBa-Gooeyhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JoeKleon
<p>Even using only one bead, the goo became too strong and would not separate. It was just one long snake from bottom to top. Eventually, after adding a tiny amount of surf and letting it sit for hours and repeating, it would eventually break up into a million pieces and you could see the wax separating. I tried every combo of Vybar 103 and 260, 5 beads of one then the other, then 3, then 1, 1 of each, nothing worked. I did about 20 lamps with various mixtures. Wasted a ton of wax and…</p>
<p>Even using only one bead, the goo became too strong and would not separate. It was just one long snake from bottom to top. Eventually, after adding a tiny amount of surf and letting it sit for hours and repeating, it would eventually break up into a million pieces and you could see the wax separating. I tried every combo of Vybar 103 and 260, 5 beads of one then the other, then 3, then 1, 1 of each, nothing worked. I did about 20 lamps with various mixtures. Wasted a ton of wax and brakleen. I then did one without Vybar and it is flowing pretty good. I wouldn't recommend Vybar, but your mileage may vary.</p> I shall use it very sparingly…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2019-05-28:1566398:Comment:6930912019-05-28T16:59:22.235ZEliothttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/EliotLees
<p>I shall use it very sparingly though. How did yours deteriorate?</p>
<p>I shall use it very sparingly though. How did yours deteriorate?</p> That's fantastic, could be ju…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2019-05-28:1566398:Comment:6931812019-05-28T16:57:14.928ZEliothttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/EliotLees
<p>That's fantastic, could be just what I'm looking for, thanks for sharing. I've gotten some good flows with recent experimental mixtures, but they all end up quite bubbly. Maybe Vybar will solve the problem.</p>
<p>That's fantastic, could be just what I'm looking for, thanks for sharing. I've gotten some good flows with recent experimental mixtures, but they all end up quite bubbly. Maybe Vybar will solve the problem.</p> I have used two types of para…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2019-05-27:1566398:Comment:6930842019-05-27T02:59:36.861ZBaBa-Gooeyhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JoeKleon
<p>I have used two types of paraffin. One is a house brand of the craft chain Michaels, called Artminds. I was told it has a melting point of 99 degrees F. <a href="https://www.michaels.com/1lb-paraffin-wax-by-artminds/10349075.html" target="_blank">https://www.michaels.com/1lb-paraffin-wax-by-artminds/10349075.html</a><br></br><br></br>I stopped using that one and have been using gulf wax. The data sheet is attached to this post. Melting point 130 F. …<br></br></p>
<p>I have used two types of paraffin. One is a house brand of the craft chain Michaels, called Artminds. I was told it has a melting point of 99 degrees F. <a href="https://www.michaels.com/1lb-paraffin-wax-by-artminds/10349075.html" target="_blank">https://www.michaels.com/1lb-paraffin-wax-by-artminds/10349075.html</a><br/><br/>I stopped using that one and have been using gulf wax. The data sheet is attached to this post. Melting point 130 F. <br/><a href="https://www.menards.com/main/grocery-housewares-pet/canning-supplies/gulf-wax-reg-household-paraffin-wax-1lb/331005/p-1444443118856.htm" target="_blank">https://www.menards.com/main/grocery-housewares-pet/canning-supplies/gulf-wax-reg-household-paraffin-wax-1lb/331005/p-1444443118856.htm</a></p> Although Polyboost may give…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2019-05-27:1566398:Comment:6933152019-05-27T02:31:03.184ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
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<p>Although Polyboost may give your wax a more desired uniform effect, I don't think it is the end -all to the separation issues you are experiencing.</p>
<p>The problem may be the initial base product your purchasing</p>
<p>Are you using "Straight" paraffin wax or a blend made for candles??</p>
<p>All paraffin waxes are not the same</p>
<p>If your buying candle making supply wax, it has additives for that particular industry. <br></br>See Link:…</p>
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<p>Although Polyboost may give your wax a more desired uniform effect, I don't think it is the end -all to the separation issues you are experiencing.</p>
<p>The problem may be the initial base product your purchasing</p>
<p>Are you using "Straight" paraffin wax or a blend made for candles??</p>
<p>All paraffin waxes are not the same</p>
<p>If your buying candle making supply wax, it has additives for that particular industry. <br/>See Link:<a href="http://www.cajuncandles.com/paraffin-wax.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">http://www.cajuncandles.com/paraffin-wax.html</a></p>
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<p>Vybar is similar to Polyboost and Steric Acid in that it "Hardens" the wax and helps with fragrance retention.</p>
<p><span>Vybar helps to increase hardness and surface gloss of your candles. It will also help eliminate bubbles and mottling, giving them a nice and uniform look. Vybar wax also gives your candle colors a creamy, pastel appearance to help match with your home's design.</span></p>
<p><span>Polyboost will take the vibrancy of your candles' color and the aroma of your candles' fragrance to new heights! </span><br/><span>Polyboost 165 is intended for most mold and votive paraffin waxes. It binds the oil in paraffin and disperses color and fragrance into the wax. Will also harden the wax. Polyboost replaces the need for Vybar 103. </span></p> I have done experiments with…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2019-05-27:1566398:Comment:6930832019-05-27T00:45:05.911ZBaBa-Gooeyhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JoeKleon
<p>I have done experiments with both Vybar 103 and 260 and had no luck with either. Lamps deteriorated fast. A few started off great, but failed.</p>
<p>I have 12 lamps that I made in the 2-3 months before I tried Vybar and 11 of them are still going strong.</p>
<p>I was really hoping that stuff would keep wax from separating and make the goo stringier. Fail. </p>
<p>I wonder if Vybar is the same as the "polyboost" I have seen people refer to. </p>
<p>I have done experiments with both Vybar 103 and 260 and had no luck with either. Lamps deteriorated fast. A few started off great, but failed.</p>
<p>I have 12 lamps that I made in the 2-3 months before I tried Vybar and 11 of them are still going strong.</p>
<p>I was really hoping that stuff would keep wax from separating and make the goo stringier. Fail. </p>
<p>I wonder if Vybar is the same as the "polyboost" I have seen people refer to. </p> Vybar 260 is for waxes with a…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2019-05-16:1566398:Comment:6931102019-05-16T14:35:37.512ZBaBa-Gooeyhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JoeKleon
<p>Vybar 260 is for waxes with a melting point below 130</p>
<p>Vybar 103 is for waxes with a melting point above 130</p>
<p>Vybar 260 is for waxes with a melting point below 130</p>
<p>Vybar 103 is for waxes with a melting point above 130</p> I recall reading that one of…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2019-05-16:1566398:Comment:6930122019-05-16T03:58:27.044ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
<p>I recall reading that one of those is supposed to be for a wax with a lower temperature melting point</p>
<p>I recall reading that one of those is supposed to be for a wax with a lower temperature melting point</p> I got some of the Vybar 260 t…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2019-05-16:1566398:Comment:6930942019-05-16T03:47:27.171ZBaBa-Gooeyhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JoeKleon
<p>I got some of the Vybar 260 today. I will be trying it out over the next few days. </p>
<p>I got some of the Vybar 260 today. I will be trying it out over the next few days. </p> I tested out some of the Vyba…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2019-05-14:1566398:Comment:6926832019-05-14T04:18:39.750ZBaBa-Gooeyhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/JoeKleon
<p>I tested out some of the Vybar 103. Anything more than just a drop ruins the flow and consistency of the goo.<br></br><br></br>One little bead, however, seems to work very well. Almost all bubbles are eliminated and the goo still seems heavier. It rises and falls faster than goo without the Vybar.<br></br><br></br>I am going to get some of the Vybar 260, which is what I should be using for the Gulf Wax I am using. . I bought the wrong stuff last week. We'll see how these two lamps hold up. …</p>
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<p>I tested out some of the Vybar 103. Anything more than just a drop ruins the flow and consistency of the goo.<br/><br/>One little bead, however, seems to work very well. Almost all bubbles are eliminated and the goo still seems heavier. It rises and falls faster than goo without the Vybar.<br/><br/>I am going to get some of the Vybar 260, which is what I should be using for the Gulf Wax I am using. . I bought the wrong stuff last week. We'll see how these two lamps hold up. </p>
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