Wax is too far gone in my new lamp.. can i simply swap the wax from a new lamp to it ? - Oozing Goo - The Lava Lamp Syndicate2024-03-29T16:01:17Zhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/wax-is-too-far-gone-in-my-new-lamp-can-i-simply-swap-the-wax-from?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A673018&feed=yes&xn_auth=noElitist Prick?Really?
Have y…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2018-03-28:1566398:Comment:6729362018-03-28T00:04:54.134ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
<p>Elitist Prick?<br></br>Really? </p>
<p>Have you reduced and lowered yourself to the lowest level of respect by name calling now?</p>
<p>Forums ban individuals for this type of anti-social behavior</p>
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<p>And yes, I agree with Keith and Magoo, I almost always use propylene glycol as my primary adjustment chemical but I assumed since you apparently have NO Budget and was using your sisters shampoos instead of spending the money buying the proper pure chemicals that are repeatedly…</p>
<p>Elitist Prick?<br/>Really? </p>
<p>Have you reduced and lowered yourself to the lowest level of respect by name calling now?</p>
<p>Forums ban individuals for this type of anti-social behavior</p>
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<p>And yes, I agree with Keith and Magoo, I almost always use propylene glycol as my primary adjustment chemical but I assumed since you apparently have NO Budget and was using your sisters shampoos instead of spending the money buying the proper pure chemicals that are repeatedly mentioned everywhere in this forum, in every instruction guide, and used by every member here that does this hobby, Salt you be your affordable option.</p>
<p>And Salt certainly has its drawbacks.</p>
<p>Corroding coils (even though its made of stainless steel)<br/>Leaching of colors of lava into the fluid, etc</p>
<p><br/>READ the archives before you ask questions, make stupid comments, and waste other peoples time.</p>
<p>And I didn't copy and past nothing but the ratios (Which are directly from Magma Tower), I used (wasted) my valuable time and typed everything by hand and dedicated over an hour of time at 4am in a futile attempt to assist you, you ungrateful self-entitled wrath on humanity.</p>
<p>if you know so much, then don't ask.</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3127097437?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3127097437?profile=original" width="209" class="align-full"/></a></p> I prefer SLS, Claude prefers…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2018-03-27:1566398:Comment:6729352018-03-27T23:25:53.467ZKeithhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Keith
I prefer SLS, Claude prefers SLES. I don't know what difference it makes really, I followed another members advice because he has had a lot of success with SLS (before Claude joined). I prefer propylene glycol over salt because salt can be corrosive and these lamps use a metal coil.<br />
When you use the actual chemical YOU are in control of the amounts and ratios. Unwanted additives are eliminated, as well as unexpected results.
I prefer SLS, Claude prefers SLES. I don't know what difference it makes really, I followed another members advice because he has had a lot of success with SLS (before Claude joined). I prefer propylene glycol over salt because salt can be corrosive and these lamps use a metal coil.<br />
When you use the actual chemical YOU are in control of the amounts and ratios. Unwanted additives are eliminated, as well as unexpected results. Also this shampoo has only 1…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2018-03-27:1566398:Comment:6732182018-03-27T23:10:30.675ZJonhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Jon366
<p>Also this shampoo has only 1 other degreaser in it, Hexylene glycol. The rest is citric acid, aka vitamin C, sodium benzoate aka a preservative, and Glycerine, which is actually better as a lubricant then SLS because it isnt a degreaser like SLS is..</p>
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<p>Think about your words for a second dont use degreasers, yet use SLS when its the #1 degreaser in every kind of soap there there makes A TON of sense</p>
<p>Also this shampoo has only 1 other degreaser in it, Hexylene glycol. The rest is citric acid, aka vitamin C, sodium benzoate aka a preservative, and Glycerine, which is actually better as a lubricant then SLS because it isnt a degreaser like SLS is..</p>
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<p>Think about your words for a second dont use degreasers, yet use SLS when its the #1 degreaser in every kind of soap there there makes A TON of sense</p> Claude, yes but im very tech…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2018-03-27:1566398:Comment:6731342018-03-27T22:56:56.724ZJonhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Jon366
<p>Claude, yes but im very technical, and your copy and paste says dont use shampoos or dawn soap because they have degreasers.. yet SLS is a degreaser and its in fact the main ingrediant in shampoos and soaps You know SLS is what makes things bubble.. Thats why they put it in toothpaste to make people think its doing something.. and also ill ask what ever the HELL i want to ask you little elitist prick. I hate people who think because they have done something 200 times as you stated it…</p>
<p>Claude, yes but im very technical, and your copy and paste says dont use shampoos or dawn soap because they have degreasers.. yet SLS is a degreaser and its in fact the main ingrediant in shampoos and soaps You know SLS is what makes things bubble.. Thats why they put it in toothpaste to make people think its doing something.. and also ill ask what ever the HELL i want to ask you little elitist prick. I hate people who think because they have done something 200 times as you stated it makes them god or something. Fuck you,</p>
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<p>One degreaser or another what is the difference.. There is none. My brothers lamp i fixed over a month ago and its not cloudy and has no issues using the shampoo i used, this lamp im having issues with is simply because i put too much salt or too much shampoo it has to be one or the other.. So i thought id ask. But its cool, i already re-did it and its working fine now. </p> Some of us have been there an…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2018-03-27:1566398:Comment:6730232018-03-27T12:38:21.310ZMr MaGoohttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/MrMaGoo
<p>Some of us have been there and tried that Claude J! Big fan of SLES myself and <span class="st">polyethylene <em>glycol</em> (PEG)</span>. Sometimes will use epsom salt to heavy the water too. Thanks so much for your time, and efforts perfecting this procedure. Thanks bro. :)</p>
<p>Some of us have been there and tried that Claude J! Big fan of SLES myself and <span class="st">polyethylene <em>glycol</em> (PEG)</span>. Sometimes will use epsom salt to heavy the water too. Thanks so much for your time, and efforts perfecting this procedure. Thanks bro. :)</p> Did I say that your shampoo o…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2018-03-27:1566398:Comment:6731302018-03-27T11:24:33.890ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
<p>Did I say that your shampoo or dish soap USED SLES as a degreaser?<br></br>NO~!<br></br>SLES is NOT the only degreaser in soaps (read the ingredients)</p>
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<p>But what do I know?</p>
<p>I've only done this procedure with over 200+ lamps (lost count)</p>
<p>I have a dedicated section of my home for a lava lab and have invested tens of thousands into the hobby</p>
<p>I have built custom lamps per clients request (See my photo section)</p>
<p>I build and design color change lamps</p>
<p>I own…</p>
<p>Did I say that your shampoo or dish soap USED SLES as a degreaser?<br/>NO~!<br/>SLES is NOT the only degreaser in soaps (read the ingredients)</p>
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<p>But what do I know?</p>
<p>I've only done this procedure with over 200+ lamps (lost count)</p>
<p>I have a dedicated section of my home for a lava lab and have invested tens of thousands into the hobby</p>
<p>I have built custom lamps per clients request (See my photo section)</p>
<p>I build and design color change lamps</p>
<p>I own over 350+ lamps in my collection</p>
<p>I took over 1hr of my time this morning to assist you in your problems</p>
<p>But what do I know?</p>
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<p>Use whatever floats your boat, but please don't ask for advice when it doesn't work</p>
<p></p> your argument is flawed.. Sod…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2018-03-27:1566398:Comment:6729282018-03-27T10:43:43.205ZJonhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Jon366
<p>your argument is flawed.. Sodium laurel sulfate IS a Degreaser.. one minute what you posted says degreasers are bad the next you wanna pour pure SLS in lol</p>
<p>your argument is flawed.. Sodium laurel sulfate IS a Degreaser.. one minute what you posted says degreasers are bad the next you wanna pour pure SLS in lol</p> See aboveShampoo -even worse…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2018-03-27:1566398:Comment:6732022018-03-27T10:33:11.699ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
<p>See above<br></br>Shampoo -even worse with all the additives it has.</p>
<p>Change the fluid, follow directions above and add SURF only as needed<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Jon said:</cite></p>
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<p>See above<br/>Shampoo -even worse with all the additives it has.</p>
<p>Change the fluid, follow directions above and add SURF only as needed<br/> <br/> <cite>Jon said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://oozinggoo.ning.com/forum/topics/wax-is-too-far-gone-in-my-new-lamp-can-i-simply-swap-the-wax-from?commentId=1566398%3AComment%3A673201&xg_source=msg_com_forum#1566398Comment673201"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I use clear shampoo not dish soap.. Its been working fine for my other lamps i fixed.. And i used aquarium salt.. but i probably put too much soap in it im guessing.</p>
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</blockquote> I use clear shampoo not dish…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2018-03-27:1566398:Comment:6732012018-03-27T10:29:04.205ZJonhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/Jon366
<p>I use clear shampoo not dish soap.. Its been working fine for my other lamps i fixed.. And i used aquarium salt.. but i probably put too much soap in it im guessing.</p>
<p>I use clear shampoo not dish soap.. Its been working fine for my other lamps i fixed.. And i used aquarium salt.. but i probably put too much soap in it im guessing.</p> Dish soap is NOT what you wan…tag:oozinggoo.ning.com,2018-03-27:1566398:Comment:6729272018-03-27T10:27:06.032ZClaude Jhttps://oozinggoo.ning.com/profile/ClaudeJohnson
<p>Dish soap is NOT what you want to use.</p>
<p>You can use Dawn to clean the globe, but do not expect it to break down the contact resistance without issues<br></br>It has additives and such for marketing the product (soft hands=oils) and cleaning purposes (grease cutting) that you do not want in your lamp.</p>
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<p>Use just the pure basic element of soap = (SLES) <span>SODIUM LAURETH SULFATE</span></p>
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<p><span>Average Surfactant (SLES) amount according to globe size is as…</span></p>
<p>Dish soap is NOT what you want to use.</p>
<p>You can use Dawn to clean the globe, but do not expect it to break down the contact resistance without issues<br/>It has additives and such for marketing the product (soft hands=oils) and cleaning purposes (grease cutting) that you do not want in your lamp.</p>
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<p>Use just the pure basic element of soap = (SLES) <span>SODIUM LAURETH SULFATE</span></p>
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<p><span>Average Surfactant (SLES) amount according to globe size is as follows. </span></p>
<p><span>If your unsure of what size globe you have please check out the section on Globe Sizes.<br/> 8 oz. - Don't waste your time<br/> 20oz. - 4-5 ml<br/> 32oz. - 8-10ml<br/> 52oz. - 15-17ml<br/> 250 oz. - 55-60ml<br/><br/><strong>** The more surfactant you use, the more round blobs will be produced.</strong><br/><strong>** The less surfactant you use, the long stretchy type of blob you'll get.</strong></span></p>
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<p><span><strong>Simple steps I use</strong></span></p>
<p>Put in 1/2 the suggested amount of SLES with @1" of distilled water and shake to coat the globe</p>
<p>(do not let dry-work fast to next steps)</p>
<p>Then add goo and distilled water to the level of 1/2 to 3/4 and fill to almost top leaving room for more Epson salt solution or propylene glycol</p>
<p>Run it</p>
<p>Run it until it is fully hot (125DegF++) until all Lava is melted and all air bubbles are broken (temporary Cap it without sealing it)</p>
<p><em>If you have problems getting the air bubbles out, put the globe in a water bath in a pan on the stove, bring it to boil then turn down to simmer and watch it until all goo is melted, all bubbles are gone, and all goo is floating.</em><br/><em>If you go this route-BE VERY CAREFUL if you decide to move it.</em></p>
<p><em>you will be starting over</em></p>
<p><em>Best to let it sit and let it cool</em></p>
<p>Next Day (Provided you do not have to remove air bubbles)</p>
<p>The lamp is at an operating temp of 125DegF</p>
<p>How does it work?<br/>no flow? add diluted and filtered Epson salts or propylene glycol until the lave flows</p>
<p><em>When using Epson salts, I heat distilled water in a clean pan, add salt, stir until it is dissolved, the put a cone coffee filter in a funnel and add slowly to globe while hot. Epson salts also have the tendency of making vintage goo (especially red) leach its color into the fluid. This is why I prefer propylene glycol to adjust the specific gravity.</em></p>
<p>Now, the lamp is hot and running</p>
<p>Got flow? good.</p>
<p>Now HOW does it flow,?<br/>is it nice and stringy?</p>
<p>Leave it alone and fill the rest of the way with distilled water and retest</p>
<p>Got no flow?<br/>SLOWLY add more salt or glycol solution to adjust specific gravity, let it reheat and see what it does.</p>
<p>Continue procedure until lava floats</p>
<p><br/>Is lava too stingy with difficult breakoff?</p>
<p>Do you have one large mass column all the way to the top?</p>
<p>Want more lava blobs?<br/>Add more SLES</p>
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<p>Be careful when adding fluids to a hot lamp.</p>
<p>If added too fast, it will stir up the lava to a condition that will force you to shut it all down and let it get cold and settle before you can do a retest</p>