Double Florence Art oil glitter - good price?

[Jonas Clark-Elliott]

I'm buying a double Florence glitter. It's the model with the ornate brown chalkware column in the center. The bottles are empty, though - I'm sure my best bet is to refill with modern 'fast glitter' formula. I'll never get hold of any 'extra' Florence mix!

I'm happy just to find a double that I can afford! To those who collect these: Is a double of this sort (same kind as the doubles with a wooden column or just a ring) with no liquid worth $40? That's the price including shipping.

~ Jonas

[Jonas Clark-Elliott]

Bryin could be a big player in that, too. He has the biggest collection I've seen.

The double arrived today. The exterior of the globes, cups and caps were very oily, but a good wash got it all clean and the mineral oil in the globes has been cleaned out. It's big, it's impressive, and that chalkware urn in the middle is SOLID, not hollow! I'll be refilling this with fast glitter as soon as I locate some Flo-Oozy, Link'd or Hot Rock bottles that have silver rather than transparent glitters. I did a tour of all the local thrift stores the past two days and found nothin'.

[Jim]

Sigh.... lol

Jonas Clark-Elliott said:

Bryin could be a big player in that, too. He has the biggest collection I've seen.

The double arrived today. The exterior of the globes, cups and caps were very oily, but a good wash got it all clean and the mineral oil in the globes has been cleaned out. It's big, it's impressive, and that chalkware urn in the middle is SOLID, not hollow! I'll be refilling this with fast glitter as soon as I locate some Flo-Oozy, Link'd or Hot Rock bottles that have silver rather than transparent glitters. I did a tour of all the local thrift stores the past two days and found nothin'.

[Jonas Clark-Elliott]

Sorry, Jim. I think it's the only multi-Florence I'll ever have a chance at. Mind me asking what you offered them?

[Jim]

I never really offered any sort of specific sum; I did indicate that I was willing to meet her initial asking price of $40 and would even "sweeten the deal".  I only indicated that I was willing to offer a "shipping inconvenience" charge as my agenda was to try to convince her to ship.  It was never really an effort to sway her to chase the money and choose me in favor of another interested party.  Just an effort to sway her to chase the money and realize that she would be rewarded for her additional efforts to ship rather than sell locally.  Once she mentioned she had another interested party I just assured her that if that deal did fall through the lamp was as good as sold.  Its not my style to try to influence her to renege; I know I would be bummed if that happened to me and I wouldn't do that to someone else.

If we did get to a point of talking dollars I would have offered $100.  $100 would have more than tripled what she was asking at $25 (assuming shipping would be less than $25).  She and I were very chatty and I kept things light with her; she indicated she would reach out to me if she found any goodies along similar lines as this lamp in the future.  Not sure if you pointed her to the site but she was reading up on this thread.  That's quite cool.  :-)

Jonas Clark-Elliott said:

Sorry, Jim. I think it's the only multi-Florence I'll ever have a chance at. Mind me asking what you offered them?

[Jonas Clark-Elliott]

I think I know why she declined, maybe even more than due to already having a buyer: scamming. Not that YOU were scamming.

There's a scam running through Craigslist sellers. Somewhat like a Nigerian money scam, there are tell-tale signs... and one of them is "sweetening the deal." The usual scam runs like so: You're selling an item for $50. Scammer contacts you, and wants to buy 'the item.' Often they first ask, "Is the item still available?" and, if you say 'yes,' then they email back with the offer. (It's pretty common for them to constantly call whatever you're selling 'the item.' Also common is extremely proper British English, since many scammers are in Africa, India, etc. - places that're used to British English.) The offer nearly always runs as follows: they want to buy what you're selling. They're out of town on an extended trip and don't know when they'll return, so they can't meet you to do the deal. But if you're willing to ship, they'll pay you a bit - sometimes a lot - extra. (In one case, I was selling a rain lamp for $60, and a scammer offered me $300.) They can ONLY pay via (pick one) Cashier's Check, Check, Money Order. (That guy vanished when I asked why he wanted a rain lamp on his business trip to Europe - especially a rain lamp that runs on 110v. mains and has a US plug!)

What occurs, of course, is that you send the item... and THEN the bank realizes the payment is fake. So you're SOL. Occasionally they intentionally overpay and ask you to Western Union the extra back, or they "accidentally" overpay and ask for the same. In which case, not only is your item gone, and whatever you spent to ship it, but the money they sent you is now owed to the bank.

When I buy items off non-local Craigslist and offer to ship, I always offer to pay by PayPal, or offer to send a check and tell them I'm happy to wait for the check to clear before they ship, and I never offer to add extra to the payment because that usually is the big "THIS IS A SCAM" indicator to sellers, even if none of the other hallmarks of a scam are present.

[Jim]

Too funny - I do have to share one actual message I sent her early in our communications.

"Further - I promise this is no scam.  I am willing to call you or be called to insure you that I am for real (and not part of any pseudo Nigerian Western Union scam of any sort).  Far from it; more like a married 41 year old who tortures his wife with his love of vintage motion lamps."

I do think she knows I was legit as she did contact me to let me know it was sold after you made it official and we chatted about the weather in Montana.  I have family in Western Montana as well as the panhandle of Idaho and the Montana brother had said to send rain, so I had told her I was doing my best.  My initial email to her offered immediate payment via Paypal. 

I just think she is good people who knew to do the right thing.  First come, first served and you beat me to the punch.  I completely appreciate that as its speaks volumes about her character. 

Jonas Clark-Elliott said:

I think I know why she declined, maybe even more than due to already having a buyer: scamming. Not that YOU were scamming.

There's a scam running through Craigslist sellers. Somewhat like a Nigerian money scam, there are tell-tale signs... and one of them is "sweetening the deal." The usual scam runs like so: You're selling an item for $50. Scammer contacts you, and wants to buy 'the item.' Often they first ask, "Is the item still available?" and, if you say 'yes,' then they email back with the offer. (It's pretty common for them to constantly call whatever you're selling 'the item.' Also common is extremely proper British English, since many scammers are in Africa, India, etc. - places that're used to British English.) The offer nearly always runs as follows: they want to buy what you're selling. They're out of town on an extended trip and don't know when they'll return, so they can't meet you to do the deal. But if you're willing to ship, they'll pay you a bit - sometimes a lot - extra. (In one case, I was selling a rain lamp for $60, and a scammer offered me $300.) They can ONLY pay via (pick one) Cashier's Check, Check, Money Order. (That guy vanished when I asked why he wanted a rain lamp on his business trip to Europe - especially a rain lamp that runs on 110v. mains and has a US plug!)

What occurs, of course, is that you send the item... and THEN the bank realizes the payment is fake. So you're SOL. Occasionally they intentionally overpay and ask you to Western Union the extra back, or they "accidentally" overpay and ask for the same. In which case, not only is your item gone, and whatever you spent to ship it, but the money they sent you is now owed to the bank.

When I buy items off non-local Craigslist and offer to ship, I always offer to pay by PayPal, or offer to send a check and tell them I'm happy to wait for the check to clear before they ship, and I never offer to add extra to the payment because that usually is the big "THIS IS A SCAM" indicator to sellers, even if none of the other hallmarks of a scam are present.

[Jonas Clark-Elliott]

I agree. Says a lot about her. She did a grand job packing it, too!

See the Buy/Sell/Trade area, I'm trying to trade a single Florence or two.

[Jim]

The karma train just evened things up.  You win some, you lose some.  This is what I just won at the flea market by my house (spray is flawless).  Oh, also nabbed a screw top Century in box for $15 as well.

[Jonas Clark-Elliott]

Great Regency!! Nice find. What color/era Century?

[Jennifer]

Jim, I LOVE that new Fantasia of yours. I am definitely addicted to these things! Congrats! Also, Jones, I know I'm not supposed to post about current eBay listings, but I also know you were looking for Crayola glitters. Just saw a green one on eBay for $10. Hope I don't get my butt chewed for pointing it out to you... And I hope it helps you restore those twin glitters. :)

I gotta stop drinking caffeine all day! I can't sleep!!!

[WeeboTech]

I have some.

However, they usually us a hotter bulb.

Jonas Clark-Elliott said:

Bryin could be a big player in that, too. He has the biggest collection I've seen.

The double arrived today. The exterior of the globes, cups and caps were very oily, but a good wash got it all clean and the mineral oil in the globes has been cleaned out. It's big, it's impressive, and that chalkware urn in the middle is SOLID, not hollow! I'll be refilling this with fast glitter as soon as I locate some Flo-Oozy, Link'd or Hot Rock bottles that have silver rather than transparent glitters. I did a tour of all the local thrift stores the past two days and found nothin'.